spiritualism and the "negative"

 Anonymous (@) 7 years, 9 months ago

I must admit that I dislike negative people (I don’t like disliking people though)

but then shouldn’t spiritualism show more compassion to the negative?

I find those who are negative are in pain. I’ve always thought it best to assist the negative from pain, not admonish them. But then yeah, Buddha condoned this, didn’t he… :)

But then even still, if somebody is mopey or complaining all of the time, they need to either fix their issue, accept if it cannot be fixed, or be sent to some island far away. This is the key to life IMHO, as I dislike negative people a lot.

January 2, 2014 at 2:35 pm
Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

@desifemilove, and disliking what you perceive as certain “types” of people is not an attribute of a negative person?

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

not IMO, no. I believe it’s normal to dislike others. how would you define a negative person?

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I can’t tell if you’re asking a question, or just incredibly passive aggressive.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

er.. yeah. It is about negative people and showing empathy to them.

you know, normal emotions such as empathy?

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Seems you’re lacking in it.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I am? you insulted me dude, what do you you expect? lol..

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Anonymous (30) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Lol, and you say “negative people” should be “discarded” like that’s not an insult?

Contradict away, my friend…

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

more evidence of feeling threatened haha..

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i4c1m2b (70) (@i4CiM2B) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

@desifemllove Empathy is not an emotion. I think you meant “showing sympathy” Empathy is an ability (some would say psychic ability) or power, not only understand a persons feelings in the general sense (sympathy), but to actually or imaginatively enter into another persons feelings. Although many people are capable of some degree of empathy, a “true” empath will experience anothers emotions as if they were their own. Empaths have to learn to block or at least limit what they are receiving or risk becoming an emotional basket case. They will often withdraw into seclusion if they are unable to do this.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

OK, but according to you it’s bad to have empathy or show sympathy. ok..

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Marlon (97) (@shoeopener) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

You can’t save people from their own race of pain. Disliking negativity coming from the unwillingness to fix an issue but instead wearing it like a crown comes from the compassion of witnessing people’s inevitability. There’s a fine line between stubbornly depressive complaining about humanity and a creation of deep understanding. Actually there isn’t. Disliking a situation where people put themselves into instead of disliking the people themselves is only compassionate.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

OK, so I am “bad” for thinking that negative people shouldn’t be discarded? OK, so yeah citing opinions is offensive now, as well as common humanity? haha..

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Marlon (97) (@shoeopener) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

People can find negativity in the smallest things when they are looking for just a little hope. Negative people lack hope. Extremely negative people are victims of false hope. Ain’t that right?

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I think that we all have our stages in life when we are negative. We learn something going through it, and can learn a little being exposed to others when they are going through those times. We come across each other so that maybe we can wake each other up and see something we are doing that we don’t realize. Like when we are mean to others until another points it out to us or we simply get our ass kicked until we see this.

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Benjamin (18) (@benjayk) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I happen to be a somewhat “negative” person (I am depressed)… I am not sure people recognize that most of the time, because I tend to not show it too much (most people don’t appreciate it). If anything you would observe that I am overly nervous/anxious and lack confidence, and sometimes mopey.

I can understand that you dislike negative people. Disliking them might perhaps be your way to feel somewhat superior and to protect your “positive” box.

The world is not “positive” (nor negative), and having a merely positive outlook is simply creating a narrow, and potentially deluded view on life. Horrific things do happen and in general things can be pretty messed up, and, yes it matters in so far as anything matters at all. Really bad stuff can basically happen to everyone, and shitty stuff happens to everyone. And having a positive outlook will often be of limited use in that situations.

Negative people simply have another kind of imbalance within them.
To be honest, the negative things are probably more important (’cause it’s critical that they are resolved or transformed or dissolved), so if anything a slightly negative outlook in my view is a little more mature and genuine than a positive.
Though of course that’s a pretty narrow view as well…

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I dislike them in the sense that they’re bad to be around. but to me they’re still people, so it doesn’t mean I must disregard them entirely.

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Michael Heyn (205) (@michaelheyn) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

A Buddhist belief is that everything really is connected and is one. If we all truly are connected, showing compassion becomes easier because we want to help others so we can be helped ourselves.
This goes with the Golden Rule to treat others how you would like to be treated.

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i4c1m2b (70) (@i4CiM2B) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I also dislike negative people. They expect to be disliked. I prefer not to use the term “negative” though,, because I want to avoid being judgmental, if possible. A person gets labeled as negative when they continually exhibit one or more of the many personality traits considered to be “negative” (there are around 100 of them). If all they do is complain a lot then I’d prefer just to say he/she’s a complainer, or he’s arrogant, or belligerent. That way, should the person want to change he’ll have a clear idea of the issue that needs to be addressed.
These “negative” people are not necessarily in pain and if they are, There’s really not much you can do to change that. Your compassion would only irritate them. They would soon dislike you as much as you do them. Negative people generally want to blame others for their miserable lives. They are unwilling to accept the responsibility for for the things that happen to them.They expect others to act in accordance with their desires and find fault in anyone who doesn’t. They will change when they’re tired of being disliked by everyone around them. When it finally dawns on them that the negative experiences in their lives are the result of their negative beliefs and attitudes and not the other way around, then they can find the way to change what’s necessary.
If you are trying to grow in the spiritual sense, then you might want to avoid anyone who is overly negative, because one aspect of becoming “spiritual” (another term I don’t like using) is the need to remove or replace negative energies /vibrations within yourself.
There is no universal rule that says there must be negative personality traits to balance positive ones, The same goes for the idea that good cannot possible exist without evil. Being confrontational is considered to be a negative trait, but that all changes when a foreign nation tries to invade your homeland, so any negativity you encounter within a person should be examined relative to the circumstances and the frequency in which it occurs.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

So it’s to express compassion towards others? why? isn’t this a “normal” human trait, as you cite above?

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

There is no such thing as negative or positive, these are just perspective judgements humans have invented for things that effect/affect them in certain ways. Talking about Buddha and spirituality in the same context of such a distinction is a point clearly missed.

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