The 440 Hz vs. 432 Hz frequency conspirasy

 Alex (@alexsabus) 7 years, 10 months ago

I just read this article here: http://www.riseearth.com/2013/12/heres-why-you-should-convert-your-music.html#.Urh6GPQW26I
It talk about how the international musical pitch was changed from 432 Hz (which also happens to be in sync with the natural tuning of the universe) to 440 Hz by the some Nazi Minister. It seems the 440 Hz induces fear, aggression and irritability etc..
And this seems to have been the base of all music we listen to today.
It also talks about how much more better is for us to listen to 432 Hz frequency and how much more better it is for our overall self.
I tried this using the free Audacity software to convert my music collection to 432 Hz from 440 Hz. And I found some of the music that I listened to as most relaxing and calming from my inside. Even the songs that I was irritated by before seemed to be really good.
I just wanted know if any of you have known about this and tried it before.

December 23, 2013 at 1:27 pm
JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

432 Hz (which also happens to be in sync with the natural tuning of the universe)

The fuck does that even mean?

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Alex (63) (@alexsabus) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

its says so in the post

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

This is the kind of reasoning that we need to avoid if we’re going to lead a ‘high existence’. Question everything Alex – even question those who question.

When people start saying ‘natural’ and ‘organic’ you need to question what this truly means. All frequencies are ‘natural’ – the universe doesn’t favorite frequencies, it uses all of them.

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Alex (63) (@alexsabus) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Well if you try hearing music adjusted to such a frequency, you can notice the difference. All songs feel really different and great. I don’t like the techno house music much. But when I changed the frequency, the songs are barely noticeable, as in not feeling any irritation.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

And you don’t reason perhaps that is a personal thing?

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Alex (63) (@alexsabus) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Also, there are things like the Schumann Resonance which is scientifically accepted. Professor W.O. Schumann discovered that the earth has a certain resonance or frequency. This is also confirmed by several scientists.
This could also mean, that humans also will have some of the effects change in frequencies, as we are also creatures on this earth.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

The Earth has a frequency based on its size, and that frequency is going to change with time, temperature, and mass of the Earth. There is no /EXACT/ frequency… fuck it. believe fringe science, eat it up.

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Alex (63) (@alexsabus) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

I googled it. Its some Pythagorean tuning it seems. And there is lot of support for this.
A post in ultimate guitar says it produces the music with perfection:
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/music_theory/432hz_crazy_theory_or_crazy_fact.html

This site explains how the vibrations in this frequency are connected to our DNA:
http://omega432.com/432-music/the-importance-of-432hz-music

There are other sites that support this theory too. Look it up.

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Fernando (68) (@fercgomes) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

There is no ‘predominant’ frequency in a song, a song is made of an arrangement of frequencies. 440Hz is just a standard tuning for convenience, it’s arbitrary, but many bands use other tunings (half step, one step down or up, and so on). For the effects, it’s just a placebo effect, if you heard a ‘432Hz’ and a ‘440Hz’ song, without knowing its difference beforehand, you most likely would not even realize it’s different. Music nowadays are filled with shitty lyrics that could actually induce something, but not the frequencies that it is made of.

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Alex (63) (@alexsabus) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

I guess that makes sense.

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Fernando (68) (@fercgomes) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

The nazi thing doesn’t make much sense either… in the 40’s there wasn’t so many tools to tune instruments perfectly like we have now, so setting the standard pitch to 440Hz wouldn’t make much difference, because tuning would still be up to the one tuning it, and without proper tuners, most of the songs from that time are most of the time slightly ‘out of tune’, and that can mean basically any frequency near 440Hz.

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Zhaetur (89) (@zhaetur) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

440 Hz is the base frequency that all other notes and tunings are based off of. Every other tuning is tuned in reference to 440 Hz. As a result of this, changing the base frequency from 440 Hz to 432 Hz changes all other notes as well. Tuning an instrument a half step down tunes it down a half step from 440 Hz thus alternative tunings are still in reference to 440 Hz

You are correct in the assumption that “if you heard a ’432Hz’ and a ’440Hz’ song, without knowing its difference beforehand, you most likely would not even realize it’s different.”

This is because the difference isn’t really something you can point out, it’s more intrinsic than that. Changing something as subtle as 8 Hz wouldn’t really change your perception of the music but it would change how the music makes you feel. Music is just feelings and emotions after all

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Fernando (68) (@fercgomes) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

The ‘feeling’ in a song is just the intervals and how they are arranged, a minor interval makes you feel sad, a major interval makes you feel happy, a fifth makes you feel energetic, regardless of the reference. And they are just assimilations.
http://theweek.com/article/index/240802/sad-songs-made-happy-the-amazing-art-of-turning-minor-key-songs-major

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who (557) (@season) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Fernando you need to stop being a fucking idiot.

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LifeinfLove (11) (@loveinlife) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

There is vibrations present in every atom in the universe. A change in vibrations will also result in changes all things around it. So there can be vibrations that can alter moods in people.

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Zhaetur (89) (@zhaetur) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

@alexsabus, I never thought I’d say this, but I agree with the 440 Hz is evil theory. I used to write it off as bullshit because, from an entirely logical standpoint, it doesn’t make any damn sense, but then again humans are anything but logical ;)

Try tuning your it to 428 instead of 432, I find I like 428 better. A dude in the comments section in the link you posted recommended it. Anyways I adjusted some of my favorite songs that I lost interest in to 428 and it was like hearing them for the first time again. There were parts I’ve never noticed before, also the whole song had a “warmer” vibe to it :D

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Fernando (68) (@fercgomes) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Dude, there is a whole profession about making music sound good, and if you tell someone is this area to turn the ‘general pitch’ down a couple of Hz’s to make it sound better, they will laugh at you. For a song to sound good, you need to make every instrument have its space in a stereo image and in a frequency spectrum, and to make every instrument sound visible, you need to make the proper frequency cuts so it has space to appear in the spectrum. Putting the ‘general pitch’ down a couple of Hz’s can’t possibly make a instrument or another be more hearable or anything like that, because you’re turning all the frequencies down, so everything will remain the same, but slightly out-of-tune.

But yeah, you can like whatever you want. Just keep in mind that there is more power of suggestion involved than any actual difference.

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MonkeyZazu (1,865)M (@monkeyzazu) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

A while back when I was research binaural beats, I came across this video of this guy explaining chakra tones. He thinks the correct tones are in the 432hz range and not 440hz. Something to do with tibetan singing bowls, but its a lot more than that.

This is kinda off topic, but all this reminds me of Micheal Tellinger’s research with ancient south african tribes, who he believes used sound as some form of energy. He thinks they did it with these special stones that make high pitch bell sounds. Something interesting is the link he makes between these south african tribes and Edward Leedskalnin, which is the person who built Coral Castle. Supposedly the only eye witness report explaining how Ed built coral castle comes from these two school boys who said he used 2 “ice cream cones” to build and move the monuments. The funny thing is Michael Tellinger keeps finding these “ice cream cone” shaped stones during his excavations. Something else that cool is this video he always shows during his presentation at the Breakthrough Energy Conferences of this old man boiling water with sound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JrpdVZyt_s

And here’s a video of Michael Tellinger explaining some of his work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cs1IXF9oz8

Personally I find all of this really fascinating. Makes me wanna become a sound engineer who just studies vibration and frequencies all day :)

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slant top (1) (@edmann) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Hi everyone? This site is squirrelly on a cell phone, maybe its my ROM.
I found a difference in the tone 432 & 440. 440 kinda go after it which 432 is more chill and let’s you listen. I’m excited about this cause I was turned on to it by a good musician friend.
Unfortunately not all music people are cool, some are real bricks. One guy on this post keep spewing, starts with an “F”, his igornance over in different ways. Like in the same tone. Felt bad for him.
Anywho let’s spread this and help create a different world with the dummies in it.

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