"The body may heal,but the mind isn't always so resilient"

Fictitious_Z (@ziggy) 9 years, 5 months ago

The quote above is from one of my fav video games ever;Deus Ex Human Revolution.It’s about human augmentation and stuff.

So,my question is;what hurts more? Physical pain (pain of the body) or mental pain (pain of the mind)?

I\’m still torn between which one it is? Help?

August 26, 2012 at 2:47 am
Hitomi (67) (@kidvisions) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

I would say that both are connected somehow. Physical pain is said to be partially mental, like when you are working out and you feel so much pain, if you manage to control your thoughts you will be able to push through. If you mean by mental pain, the kind of pain that our emotions and feelings inflict upon us, then I think that that too can be controlled, but it will be a bit more challenging, because you can’t locate the pain, and you are never sure where it comes from, or what it really means and what it tries to tell you. It will be hard to “reason” when you are under emotional pain, so I would say that it is more intense. But when it comes to physical pain, you usually can locate it and know why you are feeling it. If you have a knee injury you would know that the pain comes from your knee, but if you have a heart ache, you wouldn’t really know where that comes from and wouldn’t be able to heal it as easier.

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Dick (364) (@dick) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

I can eliminate emotional pain, and I can detach my emotion from physical pain, but I can’t eliminate physical pain.

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@dick, You can heal physical ailments, but you can neverheal trauma.

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Dick (364) (@dick) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@martijn, Yet can I not speak of either in the past tense.
I had a beetle land onto and then crawl into my ear once. It worked it’s way up to my eardrum and whatever it was doing I was subjected to an intensely loud screeching sound and a great deal of pain. By my definition it was a pretty traumatic event, which left me in a vulnerable psychological state. But it was only for a time, I worked my way through it and I’m now over it. I changed my behavioral response to an insect landing on my ear and realized the pointlessness to my emotional attachment to the event.
So either i healed the trauma, or it wasn’t trauma?

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@dick, I wouldn’t call that trauma, no. It’s more an annoying event, not a traumatic one, like rape, holocaust, murder, in which the event truly infects one core of being, coloring every experience after.

Having a beetle in ones eardrum doesn’t sound too pleasent either tho.

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Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Pain is simply a subjective emotion and therefore it does not really exist. It is something that our mind creates when experiencing, for example, some bodily sensation. We label this as pain, but I believe that when you practice enough and you accept the ‘sensation of pain’ as it comes, without judgements, then the term ‘pain’ will lose its meaning as well.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

They’re connected. Sometimes physical pain leads to emotional pain and other times a traumatic event can lead to a depression and lack of energy for someone to get better. They’re always connected. As much as I enjoyed Deus Ex: Human Revolution, mind that it’s a futuristic game and the devision between mind and body is not scientifically proven in modern life(maybe it is. it’s a motherfucking game. just like the mind needs to get used to your body structure or the building of muscles) yet, he got stronger with artificial prosthesis. And by “not always resilient” they meant that Adam Jensen didn’t only lose his limbs, but also thought Megan Reed is dead, he couldn’t cope with the “new him” and his new life so easily. And that could be pretty fucking traumatic, imagine waking up with a different body. Although he had a strong psyche and wasn’t weak minded. Pretty badass. “Strong body – strong mind – strong spirit”

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Ben (148) (@cognizantelephant) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Why can’t you ever heal trauma @martijn ?

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@cognizantelephant, I guess because the glasses through which you experience your everyday life have been irreperable broken. You can get used to them again, and still look through them, but you can not forget them.

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Anonymous (291) (@) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@cognizantelephant, When you get burned with a hot iron, you remember the pain siring into your skin, how the iron rod looked burning red before turning your skin that colour matching the smell of your skin burning, and you are forever left with a hideous scar reminding you of what had happened, and everytime you look at that scar, you remember the exact pain, the feeling, the experience.

Trauma, in a sense, is the same. Sometimes you are scarred by your experiences physically, sometimes the wounds are buried so deep mentally, no amount of therapy, self healing, positive thinking can fill that hole. It changes you, it shapes you into something you never thought you’d turn into. There are external factors that remind you, there are internal whispers that haunt you. Trauma is a demon thats hard to put on mute, and many never come back from that.

I have yet to successfully heal from my traumas, there’s a difference. When asked this question the OP has asked, I would rather take a physical ass beating than a mental one. I rather have get hurt physically, because I’ll forget that pain. But the second it becomes personal, I can’t shut the feelings out.

The mind scars the deepest, thats the hardest wound to heal.

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Ben (148) (@cognizantelephant) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@alexa, Those feelings resonate with me deeply, thanks for sharing that.

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Anonymous (291) (@) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@cognizantelephant, [:
Don’t think that there isn’t a chance to heal from trauma. Of course theres always a way, if theres a will. It just takes longer, and hurts longer, but always know you are always who you are regardless of that scar.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

I just quoted the Godfather 3 to Alexa ^^ “The mind suffers and the body cries out” stress hammers your body harder than anything you many put into it (within moderated reason). I remember someone starting a thread on this site about smoking cigerettes, they were saying that cigerettes apparently reduce stress in people so were arguing that stress kills heaps of people, maybe more so than smoking, so it would be negligable as to the difference between doing it and not.
Don’t know where I am going with this but that an active mind puts incredible strain on the body, I myself have had a heart attack at 33, so I would say that body pain only hurts the body but mind pain hurts both.

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Fictitious_Z (21) (@ziggy) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@beyond;That game was badass.And I was looking at it from a non-video game context.Thanks for your reply.

To everyone,thanks for your replies.

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