Escaping the "herd?"

 carachancellor (@carachancellor)6 years, 8 months ago

Living an above average life in an average environment is not for the simple minded. Breaking the norm and living a beautiful life in a mundane daily routine is practiced by few.

Recently I read an article By Steve Pavlina where he exposed the factory/captive life of employment in corporate America.

… Here goes another bum hating on real world jobs because he cant clean up enough to get one of his own … was my initial reaction, but as I read further into the article I discovered the horrifying truth to his words… Steve is totally right.

“One of the greatest fears you’ll confront is that you may not have any real value to offer others. Maybe being an employee and getting paid by the hour is the best you can do. Maybe you just aren’t worth that much. That line of thinking is all just part of your conditioning. It’s absolute nonsense. As you begin to dump such brainwashing, you’ll soon recognize that you have the ability to provide enormous value to others and that people will gladly pay you for it. There’s only one thing that prevents you from seeing this truth — fear.”

Before you shrug this off as hippie bullshit take a moment to think about your job.

I work three days a week, 9 a.m. – 6 p.m. I set an alarm because I can’t be late, arrive at work and park in a designated slot, proceed to sit at a desk that was picked for me and type out news that fits my boss’ criteria. At noon I leave to rapidly eat before returning to a designated parking spot, designated desk and designated assignment. Every two weeks someone from “high-above” drops the accumulation of wages into my bank account and I proceed to plan a budget with the money that they have allotted me. Blessed.

Wait.. what? There is no blessing in herd obedience.

Are we cows?

Its not spoiled or selfish to want more. Any human being with an 8th grade intelligence is capable of performing my work duties yet it is considered an “elite” college job. Sounds like brainwashing to me.

aka. “Tell the people that they are privileged to have this job and they’ll do whatever we say. ”

I am now questioning how I could possibly consider myself “free” after realizing that 50 percent of my life has been pre-set like i’m a mouse in a maze.

“All you really need is the courage to be yourself. Your real value is rooted in who you are, not what you do. The only thing you need actually do is express your real self to the world. You’ve been told all sort of lies as to why you can’t do that. But you’ll never know true happiness and fulfillment until you summon the courage to do it anyway.”

Where is the logic in paying for an education (education is power) (power is freedom) just to graduate and fall into a maze? What makes the guy writing your checks, picking your desk or assigning your parking spot qualified to tell you where to be and what to do?

Shout out to Steve Pavlina and his ability to expand the readers mind.

It’s time stop underestimating our brain power. The truth will set you free.

Click here to read Steve’s full article https://www.highexistence.com/10-reasons-you-should-never-get-a-job/

September 23, 2014 at 6:34 pm
Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

“Tell the people that they are privileged to have this job and they’ll do whatever we say. ”

this reminds me of 1984, everyone keeps getting told their rations are getting bigger and bigger and their situations are above average so they believe it and think that they are so well off when really they’re getting fucked.

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Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Good post. Thank you for that.

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Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Yes, isn’t it weird that when you’re good to people and actually just want to see them happy and hopeful with clear vision just because they’re around you, you’re suddenly doing a good job and get paid for it? Ray here put it even more simply. (@brainofmorbius) ‘Start by focusing on what you love. Find whatever you would do for free just because you have so much fun doing it, and improve yourself at it to the point that people will pay you to do it.’

It’s a peculiar thing how our minds create a huge gap, like a black hole, making a person think of things as unreachable or distant. Whatever they are, really. If it isn’t money, it’d be talking to that attractive person we’re afraid to talk to or even dwelling on our past like we’re unable to learn from it.

The thing is, once you’ve expressed your real self to the world you have to have an idea why and know what to do next. Otherwise you’d become cautious what you wish for if you don’t know what to do with what you have, because after you get it and see that things don’t change much, and the success you once thought as hard becomes only a step of choreography in a bigger musical, you realize you can’t escape from yourself.

The higher you fly, the louder you moo.

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Codi Betts (5) (@codi) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

cara.

first off. one.
second. you have the power to create your lifestyle, and you alone own your time. let no other own your time nor your creativity, nor your energy. it is yours and yours alone.

if you want to dive deep. lawoftime.org

if you want to skim dive and then go deep in steps: shoot me a message. :)

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Uranium (0) (@UraniumSteel) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

I’ve stared my own company three times. Currently, due to the economy and other factors, some self imposed, I’m working for somebody else, however I am working at getting out of this job.

Working for yourself is wonderful. I’ll typically put in a lot more hours at my job, but it’s when I want. That means if I want to see a matinee then I can, If I feel like working in the evening I can. My life is my own – it’s so much different and so much better than being an office drone.

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Ludwig (0) (@Ludas) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

These kind of discussions always remind me of Bill Hicks’ quote.
“It’s all about money, not freedom, y’all, okay? Nothing to do with fuckin’ freedom. If you think you’re free, try going somewhere without fucking money, okay?”

But as some have pointed out, how can we ever be completely free. Think of a time before money, like North America before the white men came. Were native americans more free than us? They were exposed to predators without modern weapons, cold winters without heating, diseases without medicine and so on.

Western society today lives a much safer and more comfortable life, but it comes at a price. And the price is that you need to work in order to earn money so you can be part of society. If the price is worth paying depends entirely on what work you do and how much money you get for it. And that is actually something you do have influence over. As Alan Watts said:
“And after all, if you do really like what you’re doing, it doesn’t matter what it is, you can eventually turn it – you could eventually become a master of it. It’s the only way to become a master of something, to be really with it. And then you’ll be able to get a good fee for whatever it is. So don’t worry too much.”

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

WHERE DID THE WHITE MAN GO WRONG?

Indian Chief, “Two Eagles,” was asked by a US government official, “You have observed the white man for 90 years. You’ve seen his wars and his technological advances. You’ve seen his progress, and the damage he’s done.”

The Chief nodded in agreement.

The official continued, “Considering all these events, in your opinion, where did the white man go wrong?”

The Chief stared at the government official for over a minute and then calmly replied. “When white man find land, Indians running it. No taxes, No debt, Plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water, women did all the work, Medicine man free. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex.”

Then the chief leaned back and smiled. “Only white man dumb enough think he improve system like that.”

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Ludwig (0) (@Ludas) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Yeah, kinda hard to argue with that :)

In terms of happiness and living in harmony, I don’t doubt for a second that the native Americans were provided with better circumstances then than most of us being brought up in a western society.

It’s interesting to think about how we justify the current evolution of human kind. We are closer to understanding the universe, closer to becoming one global consciousness thanks to the internet and closer to understanding our own species from a scientific point of view. But it doesn’t seem to be in pursuit of happiness or harmony that we keep going down this path. Maybe it’s just the driving and evolving force of the universe itself being manifested in humans that gives us no other choice than to keep evolving.

To me it looks like we have no clue where we are really heading, we are just doing it because we can’t help ourselves. Kinda funny when you look at it that way. We might as well be a flock of lemmings heading for a cliff to fall off (Although I heard somewhere that was just a myth about lemmings).

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Great analysis, and I completely agree.

I always like the following train of thought: There used to be birds with 4 wings, not unlike dragonflies, and in some ways they were quite successful, but in the end, not successful enough. They have died out. In the same way, our own planning capabilities, combined with having hands and tools, and language, all these things that make humans in a sense uniquely unique, could be such a evolutionary experiment as well. It is not, as some humans tend to think, that we have direct sense-organ of truth, that evolution has culminated up to this point and we are the highest product of it. That we can see the furthest, and have the most right to continue our species. It is much more like those 4-wings, some weird experiment… having no more of a claim of the future than any other being.

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Ludwig (0) (@Ludas) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Interesting, I had never heard of the 4-winged birds. That does put things into perspective for sure.

Since I am just newly registered (although long time reader) let me compliment and thank you guys for this amazing site and community. Truly inspiring and keep up the good work. I’ll be more active in discussion further on.

Greetings from Stockholm

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

The big, confusing, absurd thing about this stuff people keep talking about especially in places like this… is the crazy idea that the herd and the “global consciousness” are opposites, when they are in fact the very same thing. It doesn’t make sense at all.

This herding stuff that humans do is not evolution, it is something humans do with the tools given by evolution. And it is, in the end, the very most self-destructive process in the world. That’s why it’s nothing to worry about, because those who advocate the herd stuff will perish with it, wiping themselves out. It’s self-sanitation, natural selection. Decimation after decimation, nature’s most beautiful gift.

Lämmeltåget är ett monster, du kan inte stoppa det. Slå dig fri och spring därifrån.

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carachancellor (91) (@carachancellor) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

That is an awesome perspective. I have not thought of the topic in that way… so true!

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Orzhr0n (3) (@Orzhr0n) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Love Bill Hicks :) “If you want to understand a society, take a good look at the drugs it uses. And what can this tell you about American culture? Well, look at the drugs we use. Except for pharmaceutical poison, there are essentially only two drugs that Western civilization tolerates: Caffeine from Monday to Friday to energize you enough to make you a productive member of society, and alcohol from Friday to Monday to keep you too stupid to figure out the prison that you are living in.”

A part-time or even seasonal job is good enough for me, I don’t need or want too much money to consume stuff I don’t want or need just to keep up with trends and be a normal “modern” sheep. Life goes by too fast if you having a full-time occupation especially if you don’t even like it, you coming home exhausted because you have spend all your energy at work and boom suddenly you are lying half-dead on your deathbed with regrets of all things you’ve missed.

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carachancellor (91) (@carachancellor) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Amen, to all of it.
Why be under another humans regulation when you could be under the regulation of your own mind?

We have a brain for a reason. If we weren’t meant to be free we wouldn’t have the ability to think and dream for ourselves.

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Anonymous (12) (@) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

can we get back on point and have you girls move the cat fight to the back room? Put yourself aside, time is running out.

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Hi Sasho, again.

I am not sure how to respond to your vague accusations and non-sensical ramblings. Perhaps I should repeat that there hasn’t been a single member so obnoxiously arrogant on HighExistence that continuously belittled and berated other people like you have, and, as a direct result, have made more people leave than I ever could. Perhaps I should also remind you that I have asked you, politely, to leave, which triggered such an outburst of childish rage that I had to ban you, repeatedly.

But since I am only here because of your ‘mercy’, I guess I am totally wrong. It is not Jordan and myself that pour hard work into this place, it is obviously your greatness that keeps this place afloat. I am just deluded that I think this is a place where you are enacting your own grandeur.

But seriously now. It is becoming quite sad to see you have no other place to go. Stop drinking and try to get some help, contrary to what you think, you obviously need it.

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Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Stop lying to people, man? You blocked me with the most immature childish responses. I thought you’re just so stupid to do that that you were embarrassed the whole time I’ll expose you or something because I couldn’t make sense of it. You’re the only guy from HE who thinks that way. That’s very, very strange if you ask me and I’m communicating with the moderators from this site, every couple of days on Facebook. So what exactly is wrong with YOU?

What the hell are you talking about? I meant all the members are at your mercy, even most of the articles are taken from other sites or from guests writers. You are not contributing at all and using the forum, I’m not saying I’m the greatest person. I’m disgusted at your childish attacks again so you really don’t have to do it. I am not criticizing your work, but your leadership. You have to realize that the waves of people coming on the forum are because of people like the OP, just like I said, not because of you.

This still isn’t an apology and it’s obvious you are the arrogant one. Why would you do that? How am I a threat to you exactly? What makes you so important? I make connections, not hype like you. This is criticism. I’m not trying to berate you, because you’re not an important figure here and from banning me to be able to see the people I help actually I came to think you’re just doing it on purpose. Do you even know why you blocked me like an offended toddler? I’ve seen how you treat people here and it is very arrogant to think you know anything about them. You’d probably be surprised if you actually had a genuine curiosity about members and tried working with them, getting to know them too.

Don’t even bother me anymore until you apologize, because if you’re still not going to read anything said there’s no fucking chance I’ll talk to you again. Maybe about you, but not to you. I have our conversations on facebook. I tried talking to you honestly but it turns out you’re incapable of doing that. What else? There’s no relation between people joining the site and you. You’re usually not on the forum so you can be easily ignored.

Constant attacks from you and lies about me that I need help are not going to be tolerated, man. You’re lowering everyone’s standards with this and it is low. I know perfectly well who I am, but it seems you have a personal problem.

Maybe people should know that you actually got offended when I told you that HE has grown but you didn’t and that was the whole berating? I’m not sure you know, but it seems you need a clue that no person, drunk or sober, loves people talking shit about them and what happens in real life with such people. I guess you learn slowly.

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Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Don’t even bother to reply, you’re a fucking idiot that has lost all credibility for me. I used to have respect for you, but you can’t get any lower than this.

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

I blocked you because you are a manipulative liar with multiple faces and I had better things to do, like actually running this site, than to respond to pages of pages of manic outbursts of nonsense.

Unfortunately you kept coming back and telling new people constantly they are pathetic idiots and that they had to kill themselves. You are constantly projecting your own behaviour on others. I tried to ignore you, and this seemed to work out just fine, but in a random topic I had nothing to do with I see you smearing my name. This was my first post to you in ages, and I am the one constantly attacking you? Grow up Sasho Stayonov, stop acting as if the world revolves around you and for once, take your narcissistic personality and paranoid rage somewhere else.

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Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Apparently you are projecting right now. I’m sorry to hear all that about you, but if you need actual help try talking to people and be specific. Ignorant to the end? Paranoid rage and narcissistic personality? Yes, you are those things and I’m afraid I can’t help you, because no one else thinks that way about me from the people I made friends on HE.

Let’s actually talk with them, shall we? I’m not going to ignore you this time.

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

You are damaging HighExistence and everything it stands for. The fact that you still not see this pains me dearly. You have hurt countless of users here and haven’t shown single sign of remorse, regret, compassion or sorrow. I don’t wan’t your respect, I want you to take your destructive tendencies and have a hard look at them to see what consequences your actions have. But I honestly doubt you are able to do this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

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Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

Stop pretending you know what High Existence stands for. You’re a leech, and I never backed out from a conversation like you do. I also never accused anyone of having a disorder like you do. Grow up, Martijn. What you’re doing right now is going to stay unless you delete it. If you’re going to blow this out of proportion and lie again you should just expect people to confront your accusations. That’s it. Do what you do. You’re not bothering me when you don’t even know how to discuss things properly. I like the topic of narcissism, a lot of articles on HE preach it.

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Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

I guess you just don’t know anything. I wanted to make a thread about falling in love with someone from HE, because the actual last two years of my life have been great because of that person and all the friends that I made here. The greatest thing is I’ve made friendships with more people than just her and that’s what HE is to me. No, I’m not obsessed with anyone, I learned how to accept love and help because of these people. Alexandria you probably know, because she used to be a mod. The thing about narcissism, psychopathy and manipulative liars was just something I discussed with Ray Butler and Emil (manimal) the other day on facebook. You can’t know these things because of your bias. Stop talking, man. You’re in the wrong for a long time about me and I try to be fucking loyal but you make it even harder.

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

No, you have done and said things much worse than that.

It can hardly be called a conversation when all you do is repeating my points. I am sure your denial is the best way to live your life.

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Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 8 months ago ago

What the fuck? You have no idea, do you? You have no credible points. I don’t even think you’re significant, because I don’t talk to you. Now this is narcissistic and arrogant from your part. (think)

I’ve always been concerned actually, but you’re not the friendliest person either.

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