So I made the above image to prove a point. I’m going to illustrate 2 huge hypocritical aspects about the NFL.
I don’t know how many of you watch American football, but as for myself, it’s my favorite sport. However, there’s something really fucked up the NFL is doing that no one seems to realize.
The NFL is all about “breast cancer awareness.” The players often wear pink on parts of their uniforms to “support” the fight against breast cancer. The NFL even has a logo of the letters “NFL” with a pink ribbon around it.
Do people really think the NFL gives a fuck about fighting breast cancer? I’ll tell you right now why they’re all about breast cancer instead of just cancer in general – ATTRACT MORE FEMALE VIEWERS AND FANS!
Fuck you, NFL.
Hypocritical bullshit #1 – If you’re all about fighting breast cancer and raising awareness, well then why not raise awareness about prostate cancer? Oh yeah, that’s right, because men already make up a majority of NFL fans. No need to reach out and attract more male viewers. You only need to attract more female viewers now.
Hypocritical bullshit #2 – the NFL thinks we’re fucking stupid, and has the audacity to promote “awareness” about breast cancer, yet allows commercials during their games from companies like Burger King, Taco Bell, McDonalds, Doritos, Domino’s, Papa Johns, KFC, the list goes on and on and on. So they want you to be aware of how prevalent breast cancer is, yet they fucking bombard you with products that cause cancer! It’s absurd! And no one sees it!
If you’re sitting there wondering how or why the aformentioned products cause cancer, go ahead and adopt a diet of processed garbage. Then see how your state of health is in twenty years. Or just save yourself the hassle and Google the effects of it. Cancer is often attributed to a poor diet, which our society promotes.
This sort of hypocrisy bothers me to no end. I fucking hate it. I love football, but I hate the way the NFL does business. They honestly think you’re too stupid to realize this bullshit. So whatever, people can keep wearing their pink ribbons and pink shirts and eat their delicious processed garbage, but I at least want to spread the awareness of the hypocrisy going on.
This has bothered me for some time. Thanks for letting me rant.
@chodebalm, First I just have to say, I appreciate the new topics you bring to these boards. Hope you dont take me always debating you as anything personal. Now, onto my disagreements, and there are many.
First, I agree with you that the breast awareness campaign is definetly a way for the NFL to bring new female audiance to the game. And its working, as female viewership is growing faster for the NFL then all other sports combined. I do disagree with you that this is the NFL trying to think we are stupid. Its simply a great marketing campaign. At no point are they saying we are stupid. And, if they are using something genuinly good for the world(raising awareness) and getting a new audience at the same time, what is wrong with that? I see nothing wrong with it. I would hate them if they were using marketing campaigns that do NO good for the world.
Second, Breast cancer awareness is primarly used because of the company called “crucial catch” which has been running the co-op with the NFL for the past 4 years. They pay the NFL a large amount of money to run the campaign. The NFL did not go out to find a cause, they came to them. So thats why they only do breast cancer awareness, and not prostate or whatever else. I should point out that Crucial Catch is pretty scum, like almost every other charity. Only about 10% of the total proceeds actually make it to breast cancer research; the rest go to the retailers and in rich peoples pockets. \
The #2 you are making is all wrong. Its not the NFL that contacts these food/beverage/etc advertising companies, rather they contact the NFL. The highest bidder wins the alotted time slot. It is illegal for the NFL to say no to any legally binding entity to advertise during their games. So even if the NFL was completely against fast food, they have no choice but to honor advertising clauses and let them show their ads during their games. You attacking the NFL for this is completely wrong. There can be no prejudice, and it is not the NFL’s decision to air whatever ad. The highest bidder wins. Even if the NFL tried something sneaky and gave an ad slot to a health company over Burger King, Burger king would find out pretty quickly that they were the highest bidder’s for that time slot and sue the shit out of the NFL and win.
I love the NFL and the way it does business. If your only valid cause for hate against them is that they are raising awareness for breast cancer, and getting new fans for their own business as a result, then you are just being petty.
@chodebalm, Sometimes it not just these companies that don’t give a flying fuck to cancer… a lot of people don’t do it either, in a way that when they talk about it, they just want to look like they are cult and good people. Actually, not just about cancer, but for almost everything, people talk about important stuff in a mechanical process of just putting words out, just to look like they are educated people. I read this somewhere: ”In the West, they talk about it but they don’t do it, in the East, they do it and don’t talk about it.”
Any big cause, event or any big thing happening, there will be always people profiting. They find profit in anything, you name it. A couple of years we had the Influeza A spreading all over the world, and there was the gel alcohol companies profiting (at least in Brazil, where people were taught to use when washing your hands, to prevent you from getting the flu from other people). And it will be like that with cancer, diabetes, and any other major cause. Even the minor causes are profitable. If you want to take a shit, you will have people selling you toilets and toilet paper, so you can take a good shit.
Business will be Business.
@yoinkie, Well, I think you bring up a great point about my comment regarding the NFL thinking we’re stupid. That’s just my view on it, because that’s how I feel. I felt insulted because I could see the hypocrisy in the way they promote this. But you’re right, I can’t really say they do this with the belief that we’re all truly stupid. That was a generality on my part.
Regarding #2 – the NFL doesn’t HAVE TO accept these companies’ advertisements, though I admit that if they didn’t, they’d lose millions of dollars in revenue. But then, that sort of ties into what I mentioned about in another thread about cancer – money. I mean really, it’s always about the dollar. It’s profitable to have sick and unhealthy people.
And no, I don’t take your debates personally. In fact, I’ve learned a lot from discourse with you. I think it’s extremely healthy to gain other viewpoints and perspectives. I think it’s UNHEALTHY to always assume your own view is the correct one, and I enjoy the fact that so many people come here and share their views on things, and that allows me to adopt new insights and views on things. Your insight has changed my mind on certain issues and made me see things differently, so I definitely appreciate what you’ve contributed here many times. Your insight is always welcome.
I watched football (and most of the major pro sports) my whole life until the last year or so. Then I got to thinking, just what’s the point of watching this? This doesn’t affect me, why do I waste so much time watching espn and following this shit. I was a Giants fan so it was a pretty good time to be a fan the last few years, thankfully I don’t care anymore since they suck ass this year, but even when they would win it just seemed like I’d get all stressed out over absolutely nothing, and then when they win it’s like well yeah, cool they won, guess that’s that.
I’m just curious, as you seem like one of the more advanced intelligent people on here, how you can still have a love for something so pointless. I’m not knocking you, I wish I could still watch/ care about watching pro sports the way I used, but it just feels weird now.
And to think they give a shit about their fans is pretty naive, they’re just a business. Profit and a good image is all they really want.
@dogwithamoustache, No I totally hear you on that. In fact, when my team loses, I truly, honestly, do not give a shit. I used to get upset if they’d lose. That’s no longer the case. I love to watch football because I grew up playing it and I still play it today. I have a game tomorrow, in fact. So I raised watching and playing football. I love the sport, but I don’t let the outcomes affect my personal life. It’s only pointless if you believe it’s pointless. If you enjoy doing something, in this case watching football, then it’s not pointless. But I definitely understand where you’re coming from.
@chodebalm, Hey, I’m British (don’t ok, just don’t) so I have as much interest in the NFL as I do in seeing my mother naked. Or yours for that matter. I do, however, agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment and have actively given up on popular ‘sport’ in pretty much all its forms some time ago, namely due to the fuckin’ joke that football (soccer) has spiraled into.
Essentially, if it includes money, makes money or costs money it’s no longer a sport. It’s a business and therein lies the problem.
Sport, real sport, pure, unadulterated sport is the one you play or take part in because you love it, because it keeps your body strong, prolongs your longevity on this amazing planet, sets your heart racing and puts an inane grin on your face.
And it’s NEVER ABOUT WHETHER YOU WIN OR LOSE.
@travis, if you had read this discussion, you’d see that he does in fact play football.
@chodebalm, I completely agree with you on this man, if they really wanted to raise awareness of breast cancer, or at least cancer in general, then they would have commercials about all those fast foods, not on how delicious and tasty they are, but how they are rotting our population from the inside out. But then we have to remember that the NFL is a business, and one of the biggest in the country generating billions each year, and all the business cares about is making a profit. I can just imagine Roger Goodell together with fast food executives and medical industry executives like, “Ok we’ll pay the NFL to put our commercials on, they the people will buy our food and products, get sick, and have to get extremely expensive medicine that isn’t even that effective, muahaha money money money”. Disgusting. So glad that dollars are worth more than people’s lives
@chodebalm, I’m glad you feel that way. I always learn new things from our debates too from our back and fourths. I just wanted you to know I don’t single you out. The reason I appear to debate more on your posts then any others is, simply put, you bring the freshest topics, things that previously haven’t been discussed on these boards. I don’t generally like debating things that have been talked to death about. So whenever you post things like this, that most people don’t even bother thinking about, I enjoy chiming in.
As far as the adverts point, NFL doesn’t have much of a choice I suppose. Fast food and other big corporations have by far the most advertising money, NFL is by far the place place to put an advert, hence that’s why the two seem to always go together. NFL legally can not say no to any advertising unless its an illegal product/service. This is why we primarily only see fast food or large conglomerates advertising during games; each 30 seconds during an NFL game costs over $1 million. No one other then these large corporations can shell out that kind of cash. So lets not blame the NFL entirely.
Let’s also not forget to mention what NFL players do for society. Players are among the largest donors and charity organizers in the world. On Seahawks alone, I know the teams has charities set up across town. And the players and coaches are always out and about in the community promoting health, fitness and building community centers and whatnot.
Of course NFL is about money first, but a lot of good comes from them as well.
Wait, did you know that the end cut is 8% for money actually going into research for breast cancer? A lot of people line their pockets before that gets into actual research. I have the source for that number somewhere I just dont have time right now to look for it. Request it if you want to see!
@yoinkie, What would you think if the NFL started promoting campaigns about healthy eating? I strongly believe that would actually accomplish something in the fight against cancer, whereas fans wearing pink ribbons or “sharing” a picture of a pink ribbon on Facebook does zero good. When an issue pops up, people always ask, “What can we do about it?”. So realistically, I’m trying to come up with an actual solution or alternative that would work in the fight against cancer. And the one thing I can come up with is spreading awareness about what one of the biggest causes of cancer in the first place – diet. I’m no doctor, but it doesn’t take a doctor to research and read about the correlation between diet and cancer. I become very critical of the NFL when they fail to do something as simple as it would be to spread the message about eating right. But again, their biggest flaw is that they promote breast cancer awareness instead of cancer in general, and their reasoning for that is pretty sick.
@arenotlost, Poor diet is responsible for cancer in almost half of all cancer cases. Take your pick: https://www.google.com/search?q=diet+and+cancer&oq=diet+and+cancer&aqs=chrome..69i57l2j69i60l4.1767j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
@chodebalm, It is funny, Australia just got a new conservative government, the new P.M announced his ministerial cabinet and to my surprise, and quite a few other people, he does not have a science minister, yet he has a sports minister, wtf.
He has even stated that citizens should not concern themselves with politics but should follow sports more. On one hand they want us dumbed down but on the other hand we elect a bunch of random Senators, because we don’t know anything about politics, and that make it harder for them to do…whatever it is they want to do, and they complain about it.
Well that is what they wanted, if you throw shit at the fan what do you expect? It honestly seems that they love democracy only on the condition that you never vote for anyone but them. I’m quite sad for my country at the moment, thanks for the chance to vent :)
@trek79, The more I hear from people such as yourself from other parts of the world, the more I realize that the U.S. government is not the only government who does the shit they do. It seems governments all over the world are just as corrupt and power-hungry as that of the U.S. and Britain. Shame, shame, shame. I feel your sadness, mate.
@chodebalm, A little more on topic, sports are doing the same here. A few years ago we had a string of incidences involving Rugby League players and the degradation of women, since then we have had this big influx of “Pink for Breast Cancer” and “The Women of League” promotions, very much P.R and damage control in my opinion.
@chodebalm, I looked through the first 3 pages of google searches you sent me regarding fast food and cancer and didn’t find a single peer reviewed journal article or double blinded study. Most of them dont even mention fast food. I completely agree with you about pink, inc (cancer awreness groups) having disturbing self serving interests (along with some good intentions) and the NFL utilizing that nonsense for marketing. But,, while I don’t have any connection to fast food and rarely eat any, I am skeptical that fast food causes cancer by itself and while I’ve looked I’ve never found any substantial evidence. You could probably find evidence for a causative link for obesity for some cancers but that by itself doesn’t mean fast food causes cancer.
You can’t just return a google search to prove your point. That’s like saying ‘aliens live in the Bermuda triangle’ and I can prove it. Take your pick: http://www.google.com/search?q=do+aliens+live+in+the+bermuda+triangle&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
We have to hold ourselves to a higher standard when making claims. A google search, by itself, will almost always “prove” your point and that is a fallacy of the Internet that potentially propogates false, or at least, yet to be proven claims.
Just saying. Really appreciate your posts in general and how active you are on HE.
@arenotlost, I was not referring to just specifically fast food. In my comments above, I was referring to “processed garbage.” The reason I mentioned those fast food places is because that’s what’s advertised on TV. But either way it falls into the category of processed garbage. And it’s processed food which causes cancer. That’s what I was trying to provide you links for – links which show that cancer is related to unhealthy diets of processed, refined foods, and foods made with all sorts of chemicals and preservatives (which are in all fast food).
@chodebalm, “If you’re sitting there wondering how or why the aformentioned products cause cancer, go ahead and adopt a diet of processed garbage. Then see how your state of health is in twenty years.”
“And it’s processed food which causes cancer. That’s what I was trying to provide you links for – links which show that cancer is related to unhealthy diets of processed, refined foods, and foods made with all sorts of chemicals and preservatives (which are in all fast food).”
I’ve actually been really worried about this lately. My family has never really been onboard the organic food thing, all we’ve ever really eaten is regular grocery store food, and we don’t have a water filter either. I’m worried that it’s too late and we’re all horribly fucked. Is there even anything I can do at this point?
I can’t talk to them about it, they don’t believe it. And I can’t get a filter at the moment for water – if I did they wouldn’t use it anyway.