The new voting system: Democracy, hurray! (please up vote and see the magic)

 Martijn Schirp (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago

Dear HEthens,

This is a post to explain and convey the importance of the new voting system.

On the left of a post or comment there are two arrows, one up, one down. Clicking up gives that post a single positive vote, clicking down gives it a negative vote. This gives every post or comment a total score. The higher the score, the more prominent the place it will get.

If a post gets -5 votes, it will be minimised. So everyone is able to moderate the site.

Simple, right?

But why is it important to do it?

If enough users use it, it will add tremendous value to the site. Not only can you post good thoughtful questions and helpful advice, you can also make sure other posts that are valuable can get more prominence. No more excellent posts that get overlooked and disappear in the background. Really good posts will be read by more people than just a selective few.

Of course this is all dependent on you. As in any democracy, it only functions if you actually use the power you are given.

So I’d like to urge you to use this more often than you initially (or automatically) would do. Every topic you have read, take a moment to think: Is it valuable or not? And act accordingly.

Same goes for comments. Try to vote as much as you can :)

Thank you <3

December 18, 2013 at 11:57 am
Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Great stuff! Thanks for all the hard work Martijn & Jordan! Site is looking awesome!

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Thanks buddy :)

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Yael Alonso (59) (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

It sounds like the post that are most popular will be get voted up and that conversations will be eliminated due to popularity contest instead of actual back and forth and all opinions being considered and taken into account. So it’s basically gonna be a twitter page.

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

No, it’s actually the other way around. In the previous system there was no conversation possible since all story lines crossed each other. Now all the distractions will get moved down. This gives the chance of really go into the subject matter without getting lost in the noise.

I can’t understand your comparison with Twitter.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

I see, so direct responses to the original post are visible, while sub-conversations can be bypassed or accessed at will?

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Yes, exactly :)

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Anonymous (328) (@) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Your comment is a perfect example. It’s not twitter, but it is exactly like reddit. Get ready for censorship of alternative opinions. Because everyone who has a slightly different take is automatically a spamming troll.

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

This is still dependent on how the users use the site. Don’t be afraid of how other users use it, lead with example.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

@martijn,

hrrmmm, 5 votes seems really easy to achieve by only a couple perspectives, i dunno about the amount required, shouldnt a thread only be a problem if it negatively affects a high % of ppl not just a cpl who could possibly use a system like this to manipulate? are 5 negative opinions really that much of an impact on a site of.. 47,056 ppl?

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

A thread doesn’t get deleted if it gets minus 5. It will get moved down however, relatively to how other threads are faring. Comments with minus 5 will be minimised. But still can be read later and changed by moderators.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

ok, cool

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

especially if you consider how some1 could make multiple accounts, which, sounds silly, but i have seen it done, and some1 taking it to that extreme seems to me some1 that is gonna to manipulate the low amount needed,

why not have the 5 vote system instead send a notification to a moderator, so a human can step in and see the situation in context

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

See my previous reply. And we can see who is abusing the system, will will result in a insta-ban.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

awesome =)

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

function be like, [5 votes] —> automatically [freeze] thread —> [send notification to x moderator], who would then be able to read the specific comments within context and make a determination.

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

@tine, Please use the ‘reply’ function to contain your questions in the same conversation thread.

Unfortunately, this is not something easily changed. Lets first see how it will be used, if people truly abuse it on a large scale, we will have to change it.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

o cool, i see how this works now, thanks. ok bud, i understand, but i do think there is some validity to Yael’s concern as well, as well as this, i have not coded something of this magnitude so i cant comprehend the change i am suggesting, but from my understanding of it, it seems like you could just go to the command line within this context and add a freeze and notification command, but like i said, maybe not

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Perhaps you are right, and yes there is indeed validity, but we don’t know until we know.

@jordan,

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

@martijn,

also, i read the 5 vote system applies to comments as well, does this mean that if within a thread a comment gets 5 negative votes the thread itself is also punished?

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

No, the thread itself is not punished because of the comments it has received.

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Grand Kahlib (76) (@kahlib) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Brilliant

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

I like the idea in principle, but there is the issue of people preferring “feel good” comments over “cold hard truth” comments, people don’t always like wake up calls and tend to opt them out. I hope this site will prove appreciative of raw reality over guru pseudo-spirituality, but that’s me :p

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

Great point. You’re right, perhaps democracy isn’t he right system and we shouldn’t have this power at all. It’s a great test actually :) @trek79,

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

I think ideally it would be an option; to arrange according to age or popularity.

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Anonymous (16) (@) 7 years, 10 months ago ago

This.

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