the spiritualist trend – join or desist?

 Anonymous (@) 7 years, 9 months ago

Over the past five years, society is becoming more spiritual. Meditation, fate, karma, fatalism, etc. are all becoming more mainstream.

but then I was not raised in Eastern beliefs, and I don’t like them to be honest. When I was young, people used to say “if you can’t beat them, join them”. is this the case, here? Or will the spiritualists (contrary even to their belief systems, but meh contradiction is normal) string non-spiritualists up when they take over? lol.

January 19, 2014 at 4:44 pm
Anonymous (328) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

That would just be the image part of spirituality. There’s nothing to “join” to, because the moment you do, that is the exact moment you are walking away from your own personal spirituality. Sure you can learn from various teachings, gain insight to strengthen yourself, but the thing is: All those dead guys lived in a very different time. If they even existed at all…

Again. Stop fucking spamming.

Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

lulz.. don’t you always say you’re a spiritualist?

Ben (231)M (@benjamin) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Don’t jump to joining or desisting from anything. Explore it. You’ll probably like some parts and not like others. That’s cool, just make sure you find a way to evolve, instead of judging something based on a value system you developed before you were exposed to it. @motorik said things pretty well.

i4c1m2b (70) (@i4CiM2B) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Can you be a little or a lot more clear on your perspective of what a spiritualist is and what you think becoming more “spiritual” means. I’m certain that a having a background in eastern religion, traditions or practices is not required nor do they have a bearing on a person’s choice to explore spirituality. They may discover a tool such as mediation, which they perceive as a means to achieve the goal of becoming more spiritual as they define it. I have a good idea as to what is you’re asking, but different ideas about what becoming more spiritual means. Concepts such as fate, karma, and fatalism are not (IMO) even remotely related to one’s spirituality.
The word itself remains undefined as it is currently being used except in a general sense.

The question: Is this one of those “if you can’t beat them, join them” instances presents a logical fallacy as it presents only two options when in reality there are numerous ways you could approach the issue. Furthermore we are being asked to choose based on the assumptions that:

1. They’re numbers are growing and they will soon take over.
2. That spiritual people desire power and to control what others think believe.
3. That they believe it’s OK to eliminate non-spiritual people
4. That they are an organized group of religious zealots demanding that we all
must convert to their way of thinking.
5. That they really don’t believe in the ideals that are inherent in every teaching and practice of those who choose to develop spiritually, all of which are based on believing and practicin Unconditional love, Forgiveness towards others and oneself alike, Gratitude/appreciation for all that is, Learning to stop feeling the need to be judgmental about others with regards to their beliefs, behaviors, ideas, habits, choices, occupations, wealth, class, race, nationality, sexuality, personality, or anything else that makes them different from you. They recognize and acknowledge that each individual chooses their path through life and therefore must learn to accept responsibility for and the consequences of those choices.

So in order to say that society is becoming more spiritual, your experience would have to be one where more and more people you come into contact with appear to be so much more loving, kind, compassionate. They are not judging you by the way you dress, or your weight, how you measure up on the current beauty scale. They accept you as you are and don’t try telling you what you should be, or who you should be like, They are encouraging you to be yourself and are accepting of the choices you make. They allow you to make mistakes and are willing to forgive you, because they understand the value of every experience, both good and bad. You would be observing people who were doing their best to maintain a joyful, optimistic attitude in general and a greater show of appreciation for your efforts both at work and at home. These are just a few signs that society is becoming more spiritual. If that is what you’re seeing, then I have to agree that society is becoming more spiritual.

What about that needs to be beat and what possibly harm do you see in joining such a movement. Spirituality isn’t a goal. There are no badges far achieving different levels of enlightenment The spiritual awakening you’re witnessing is not one of spirituality itself. It simply represents a growing desire by people to find a way to be more loving, more forgiving and less judgmental towards people for any number of silly and irrelevant reasons. They are choosing to focus on and appreciate things that bring them positive feelings and at the same time they’re deciding not to dwell on the things that don’t feel so good.

When we observe events happening around us, we tend to explain, define and judge them from the perspective of our individual beliefs about the people involved. Those people, however, are not necessarily who or what we perceive them to be. In this case, a better understanding of spirituality in general and what is meant by someone who says they want to be more “spiritual” or take a spiritual approach to life, would alleviate any fears you might harbor about “being strung up”.

Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

er.. as far as I am concerned, it’s self-evident.

Cece (5) (@cmae) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

i do think that the spiritualists move us in the right direction as far as changing our perception inwardly, but in the end its going to be an integration of everything we have built for ourselves coming together in a way that we will all look at eachother and be like “What the fuck were we so scared about, LOOK at this safety net we built for ourselves without even realizing it”

i do believe that there are ways to be “stuck” no matter what you dive too deeply into. i’ll admit i did have a really spiritual phase, which i never found any relatable concepts to what i truly believe but did find HUGE benefits in both yoga and meditation so it was worth it. Just added another layer to myself

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