The Workless Human

Kris (@kjbaran) 8 years, 1 month ago

So I’ve had this itching idea over the past couple months and it goes like this;
Conditioning has taught us that we must work work work to supply for demand and that the idea of robots taking over industry is a bad thing. Seriously? Why dont we get the AI and the robo force built to supply for demand so we can focus on things like passions and education? Positions that require humans would be filled by those who have the passion to do them whilst the standing philosophy remains true, to follow ones bliss. Think about it, even education would be totally personal and completely fulfilling, learning at the pace in which one is comfortable learning at.

October 29, 2013 at 1:27 pm
daniel (24) (@dany) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@kjbaran, yep,tell that to the rest of 99% of the freaking humanity.

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@kjbaran, so what are the people who are passionate about work that a robot can do are going to do? how are they going to get paid enough to survive or be valued? With that idea, the possibilities could include such as for example people who love cooking may be replaced by a well programmed robotic environment that can prepare that food faster and cheaper. We have three dimensional printers now, so someone passionate in sculpture by hand would have a choice to do that through 3d computer software or be useless against those who consider the craft obsolete due to printer having the same ability to fit the “job”. How can someone pursue their passion if all it is proving you can outdo the robotic employee in some way others would agree has value? Or be cool with spending their lifetime of translating their talents over into a computerized machine that will do the task they’re passionate about for them. A machine that won’t even feel any satisfaction or happiness from executing that job.

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TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

The problem is, work is just as much if not more of a control device as it is an economic device. Work keeps most people feeling like crap their whole lives, so then what to they do? Go out and buy things that numb the pain of being ordinary, TV, booze, smokes, junk food, pornography, etc. It becomes a work/painkiller cycle that most people live their whole lives on loop from about 22 til the end, and it’s very profitable for those involved.

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Matheus Pinheiro (44) (@Mattgood) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@kjbaran, This influence we suffer that we MUST to be part of this workaholic project makes us to lose all the truth wish to study or doing any thing in the professional word. Money finishes taking the lead. So we do not expand our horizons or discover more about ourselves, we just focus on the money! That seems bad.

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Goglosh (28) (@goglosh) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

You still need to work dude, it’s part of the human condition. No wait, of the whole animal condition. Else you run the risk of sitting on your ass all day long just browsing the interwebz. I know work isn’t the only solution to that, but it gets you going.
And of course depression is often the result of intertia

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TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@goglosh, depression can be the result of work as well. There has to be a real third way.

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Obviously, you’re not a golfer (605) (@donjaime23) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@kjbaran, So, just to clarify, you’re suggesting we give jobs worked by humans to robots?

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Aristarchus (2) (@Aristarchus) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@kjbaran, If you replaced humans for robots in labor, then you would be directly cutting out the vast majority of the consumer bases, and demand would fall. Your idea couldn’t work in capitalism because supply and demand is dependent on people working so they can consume. If you don’t work you can’t afford to consume. It would recquire collective ownership of the means of production to replace humans with robots, to split the products the robots produce among the people, since no one is working and no one could afford to buy the products the robots produce. An automated economy recquires a vast rethinking of the concept of commercial property, and economic relations. This is evidenced by the fact that we have had the technology to create an automated economy for a long time, yet there hasn’t been an economic motive to create an automated economy in all that time. It is because it is impossible in the current paradigm.

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Darryl (1) (@JDarryl) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

If somehow we could set up robots in a way that they’d take our place, and we could take the place of our pets – or so to speak – I wouldn’t think of this idea as a too far-fetched one. In the end, it’s all about survival. From there on it’s basically the maslow pyramid.

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