This is not Higher-than-you-Existence
A disclaimer involving blog posts and posters. If you’re coming to this website, it probably means you’re interested in topics that are outside your typical dinner conversation. For that, I would like to welcome you to community who searches for answers amongst all the smoke and mirrors, disillusions, and myths and strives for something that we can all share. However, being that this is my 2nd day on the site, I have found that a lot of people deem it necessary to bring there arrogant, pompous, ignorant, and downright hateful attitudes here as well. So I beg that when participating in meaningful discussion with others that have similar questions, interests, and tastes that you exercise your restraint and humility. There are a lot of intelligent people here with a lot of insightful things to say and there are also a lot of people with an inflated sense of self-worth. Please, reflect the attitudes that you would like to see within your new community. Thank you.
@bearacleitus, Love the post bro.
I’d love it if there could be more respect within this community. We’re going to have times where we don’t agree or see eye to eye. It doesn’t mean one of us needs to bash our opinion or views into the other. On the contrary, we should be able to use the others views to broaden our own. We should be able to respectfully disagree.
If I could have “respectfully” would have been italicized.
@bearacleitus, im glad you wrote this : ) we’re all trying to lose our ego but shooting down others opinions either makes people doubt themselves or drives them to debate ruthlessly. The “higher existence” is being able to acknowledge and validate all of the arguments and be comfortable committing to one while others commit to another, standing alone in your decisions. Defending a position mercilessly is a destructive act.
Let me use some imagery.
I started working Monday, and i got a splinter in my finger. It was okay and the work was great and I really enjoyed doing it so the splinter wasn’t so bad.
Tuesday I got a splinter in the exact same spot and it kept rubbing on my clothes. It wasn’t bad – the work is fun! I like this, getting my hands dirty.
Wednesday someone sand papered the fresh, tender splinter wound and now its quite red and blistered, but its ok. He didn’t mean it.
Thursday some other guy rubbed salt in my wound. It was alright. You know.
6 months later, as soon as someone touches my wound I punch them in the fucking mouf
@beyond, I think bearacleitus, had the best of intentions. I have not been here long but have noticed a lot of misguided people with down right shitty attitudes and it is a big turn off to the site. When I came to the here I wanted to converse with people that were open minded. If I wanted to discuss the topics that are brought up on this site with people that couldn’t see things any other way then their own, I would have went to the catholic church down the street from my house. Every one has an opinion and everyone deserves respect.
@bearacleitus, True, a small minority may have an inflated sense of self worth, but I think most things deemed aggressive have been misinterpreted due to the wonderful nature of the Internet. Passion can be misconstrued as aggressiveness when really the writer only wants the best for the reader.
People are always going to disagree, and some people turn into assholes when they do. Once you accept that it’s kind of not a big deal anymore. And actually, it can be pretty entertaining. Why? Because I don’t get how people can get so wound up by something someone else has said. And guess where I learnt that? Here. By disagreeing.
@panolipsist, I have good intentions too. Although, I never liked people speaking generally about what they don’t understand and not to people’s faces. For example –
“I have found that a lot of people deem it necessary to bring there arrogant, pompous, ignorant, and downright hateful attitudes here as well”
If a place where open minded people discuss things, why would anyone even feel butthurt? If a person claims they are open minded, why limit themselves? We could have a really nice discussion about arrogance and pompousness if people everywhere weren’t so butthurt about other people’s attitudes.
@beyond, I just want to let you know I didn’t post that because I feel superior to everyone. I posted it because to have an actual, meaningful discussion, you have to be willing to play with others and it sucks that I came here with the impression that the people here were mature enough to do so, but unfortunately that’s not totally the case.. Accusing me of some masturbatory post doesn’t do us any good. In fact, it exactly what I’m trying to address. I’m not looking for fights. I’m looking for Truth and if I’ve learned anything about reality, it’s that where you find Truth, you will find Beauty. Where you find Beauty, you will find Goodness. Where you find Goodness, you find Truth and damn it, if it means that I have to make a seemingly pretentious post to advocate some of that Beauty and Goodness that comes with this community’s so-called “Truth” (which for some reason a lot of people understand as being something relative ((Wtf?)) then whateves.
I’ve seen you post that phrase and others like 5 times throughout the forum in the past hour. I understand where you’re coming from and you’re right about a lot of your insights. But really, stop worrying about everyone else’s attitudes and just enjoy the site. If someone irks you the wrong way just ignore it. Its not worth fussing over and by doing so you are just feeding the type of behavior you’re trying to persuade others to eradicate. I realize I’m being a bit hypocritical just by posting this… but yeah… just let it go.
@beyond, True. Validation is a certain neediness that keeps you powerless. I see how this could be interpreted as a plea for validation, but everything could. Daring to express anything seems like an act of commanding permission to exist.
Abstract I know… Just my thoughts :)
@siantastic, I ain’t even mad, bro. I already get it which is why I’m addressing it because yes, peoples actions can be misinterpreted over the Interwebs and yes, it is important to give people the benefit of the doubt in those situations. However, how you act on the interwebs is a reflection of how you actually feel. If your willing to be nice in front of people but a dick on the interwebs, your not really a nice person. Your a seemingly nice person. And the same thing applies to the tones people carry in their posts. I made this thread because realistically, no one wants to deal with douchebags. Do we have to anyway? Yeah and I already know that which is why I’m advocating people actually act mature here, too. There’s nothing wrong with me advocating this and honestly, we all know that this would be a more enjoyable site for it. However, don’t misinterpret my desire for civility for a lack of respect for free will.
@beyond, First of all, its not hard to understand when people are blatantly being demeaning especially when other people agree with me on the subject so don’t act like I don’t know what I’m talking about. Second of all, you bet your ass I would rather be in front of everyone’s faces if I had the opportunity because it takes more time for me to say what I want to say in type than in speech. And finally, being open-minded means being available to other people’s ideas, which I am and that’s part of the reason why I’m here. But just because I can acknowledge, tolerate, and respect people when they’re douche bags doesn’t mean I have to act like I like it. So once again, I know what I’m talking about and I know what I want. I get that the world is not some happy perfect place where everyone gets along but that doesn’t make it wrong for me to want something a little closer to that than people bashing on each other just because they choose to..
@beyond, So how about this ‘nice discussion about arrogance and pompousness’ sounds titillating :)
I don’t want to call anyone out on a thread so that is why I have kept it general and have had private messages with the individual I am talking of. The issue is being resolved there, but I think it is important to remind everyone on the site to keep a positive attitude everywhere on the site.
@bearacleitus, haha the hypocrisy of your post is humorous. Without opinions we would be all the same. Your opinions on this subject make you who you are. Also, two days on one website doesn’t give you a whole understanding of it all.
Sorry you encountered all us close-minded, opinionated folks instead on the utopia you expected. Welcome to earth, welcome to High Existence.
@bearacleitus, true, it’s perfectly fine to voice your opinion and to spread some insight. Just don’t get your hopes up that it will change anything. Lots of people have made similar posts like this but usually all it amounts to is even more arguing.. but I’m sure you’re realizing this. In the end though, everything stays the same.
@bearacleitus, Never said you were.
Why do we have to deal with douchebags? Because there will ALWAYS be douchebags. Thinking otherwise is going to set you up for a pretty rubbish time.
And tone in posts is completely subjective…I wouldn’t assume that because I have read a post as aggressive that that was how it was meant to be received. I have done in the past, but once again, I learnt not to thanks to HE.
@bearacleitus, I never called anyone a douche bag. The reason is pretty simple, they could be gentle and loving human beings to someone they care about, but that doesn’t mean they deserve respect either way. But I do call people morons or idiots, that’s because I create a bond with them while imitating them. Ain’t that brilliant?
Also, thinking that someone is a douche bag and saying you respect them is the complete bullshit I’m simply not having. Hypocrites just make me want to punch them in the face? But I can’t do that, I have to be diplomatic in order to get my point across.
@edwardbernays, Please point out my hypocrisy. Where have I said one thing and did another? And your right. 2 days isn’t enough time to totally understand the whole site. However, I didn’t mention 2 days to act like I know everything. I said mentioned the 2 days because in the short time that I’ve actually been on this site, that has been the rule more than the exception and it’s, at the very least, disappointing considering the community and the subject material. I’m not bashing opinions. I commenting on behavior. I’ve been on Earth for a few years and I knew what I was getting myself into, but that still does not make me wrong for wanting a more peaceful community..
@taysand, If I want to see things change, I have to make the effort at the very least and thank you for the warning.
@siantastic, Yeah. I get that there will always be douche bags. I would just like to see less of them. Why? Not because I feel like its my right to dictate how people act. Because its more satisfying to interact with people who are willing to benevolently interact with you. And yeah, tones are subjective. I get it. Which is why I said tones and not words because if a word is hurtful, it IS a lot more obvious. People still have control over the impression they convey in their words. And I also get that people don’t like being told what to do which is why I made a recommendation, not a doctrine or principle or dogma. I’m ASKING (not telling) people to treat each other better. That’s all.