This is not Higher-than-you-Existence
A disclaimer involving blog posts and posters. If you’re coming to this website, it probably means you’re interested in topics that are outside your typical dinner conversation. For that, I would like to welcome you to community who searches for answers amongst all the smoke and mirrors, disillusions, and myths and strives for something that we can all share. However, being that this is my 2nd day on the site, I have found that a lot of people deem it necessary to bring there arrogant, pompous, ignorant, and downright hateful attitudes here as well. So I beg that when participating in meaningful discussion with others that have similar questions, interests, and tastes that you exercise your restraint and humility. There are a lot of intelligent people here with a lot of insightful things to say and there are also a lot of people with an inflated sense of self-worth. Please, reflect the attitudes that you would like to see within your new community. Thank you.
Did no one get my pun? That’s funny! Come on guys, look up the definition of high…
@bearacleitus, you were hypocritical because your telling people to be more open-minded, yet in doing so you are creating a closed circle of what open is. You were imposing your opinion of what acceptable is. Your opinion. Welcome to HE, just please don’t come in telling us were morally inept, it comes off as arrogant. By labeling the title the way you did, your framing both the people on this site and what it means to be higher/enlightened.
@bearacleitus, Yeah, but you did say this “If your willing to be nice in front of people but a dick on the interwebs, your not really a nice person. Your a seemingly nice person. And the same applies to the tones people carry in their posts”. The tone they carry. Nothing subjective about that.
You’ve only been here 2 days man…this site has so much to offer that the differing opinions and attitudes become irrelevant.
@siantastic, Some people don’t understand that they’re the same everywhere. I’m pretty much a dick to everyone, except of course to the people I love. I think a lot of people in general need some external guidance to get the attention they already got by being on the Internet. They get it for free so easily that they can’t stop enjoying it. :) Look at facebook, human psychology – you’re gonna get rewarded for what someone else enjoys while you’re simply sharing your own. When did people start caring so much if they’re liked or not? :) It’s a damn shame a few people see that. First, the idea of needing a guide is the main reason people join sites like this one. Second, some people take this idea so seriously that they think they are a guiding force. And third, a lot of people forgot to stop taking themselves so seriously.
When you are no fun, try slowing down with making people think like you.
@edwardbernays, I’m also having a hard time understanding where you think @bearacleitus is being hypocritical. From what I read, he made some observations about his experiences on this website, and then gave some thoughts on ways that those experiences could have been better. Specifically, he asked that people “exercise your restraint and humility” and “reflect the attitudes that you would like to see within your new community”.
I’m almost certain that we can all agree that humility and, essentially, treating others as you wish to be treated are virtuous and positive characteristics that are strived for in the context of HE. However, I would have to agree that suggesting we all “exercise restraint” is no better a suggestion than one we would experience in the so-called world of “smoke and mirrors, disillusions, and myths”.
Although, as I’m writing this and think more into it, I have to admit that my own beliefs are actually in agreement with @edwardbernays. What I believe is that everyone has a right to experience the world for themselves, and to express themselves as they see fit. We can’t TELL people how to do things differently, whether we believe it’s for a good cause or otherwise. And by that definition, I must say that you were being hypocritical @bearacleitus.
I believe you would have been better off living up to those guidelines and hoping others would follow, rather than calling people out for their perceived immorality. More good has been done for humanity through ACTION, not WORDS. The great leaders through history have led by example. I’m not trying to pick sides here (I did literally change my argument halfway through), but rather trying to give the most objective assessment that I can.
@edwardbernays, Being open-minded doesn’t require you treat others harmfully. How is what I said contrary to being open-minded? You can be nice or mean and still be open-minded. And I think it’s pretty obvious that I’m not imposing anything. I’m making a request. And I never said anyone who acts like an asshole doesn’t know better. They just don’t ACT better and I don’t think anyone here can prove to me that it’s better for anyone to act like an asshole over treating others fairly. And yeah, I am framing what other people think because that’s the truth. Who comes here to be belittled? Are you guys seriously defending being an asshole? Does everyone have the option or choice to be whatever they want or conduct themselves however they want? Yeah, they do. But acting like since you have the right to be an asshole, its not ok for people to not like it is bullshit. Especially since it does more harm to others and one’s self in doing so.
@siantastic, I also don’t see how the tones my words carry imply that I would rather treat people badly than treat them nicely, especially since I made a thread about people treating each other fairly. I find it funny that in trying to advocate for more peaceful conversation, people are looking for reasons to say I’m wrong for doing so.
@acexiii, Having a hard time, I see. I was accused of being condescending but you’re giving me no choice.
Hypocrisy for dummies:
“Also, thinking that someone is a douche bag and saying you respect them is the complete bullshit I’m simply not having.”
@beyond, hmm I’m going to assume you didn’t read my entire post? I did come to my own conclusions in there somewhere. Also, I’m not sure what your intentions or reasons were for being condescending, but in case you couldn’t have guessed, I don’t like being spoken to in that way.
@bearacleitus, I think you’ve misinterpreted me…and I think you’re having a different conversation with me than I’m trying to have with you.
@beyond, You hit the nail on the head man. I have absolutely no idea why everyone seems to need the reassurance that what they’re doing or saying is right. It’s a relatively new widespread phenomenon. I think Facebook is the main culprit, and many online sites are based on a similar system. Even the heart system on here feeds into that. Now go feel happy with yourself because someone agreed with you…dick :)
@beyond, Do you think that people being mean is a good thing? I understand people have their freedom and you can act however you want, but do you seriously think that it’s even worth acting like an asshole knowing that it does nothing but harm you? Am I pathetic for appreciating when people are treated fairly with kindness than when people are treated badly? And if so, for what reason? And if it’s not a good thing, why do it? Where’s the motivation? This is exactly what I’m talking about. There isn’t a justification for acting like an asshole except “I can.” Yeah, you can, but is it worth it? Do you reallllly get more out of life by treating others badly versus treating them well? And if so, how? Because that would be groundbreaking. There’s an economic element to the choices that you make and if that’s what it takes to make my life better and others better, please, educate me.
@acexiii, I look forward to actualizing what it is that I want to do since what you said is true and I appreciate what you had to say. I wasn’t attempting to call any particular person or people out on acting badly. I was trying to address that it happens and I think we would all be better off if it happened less rather than more.
@beyond, You arent a dick to me, does that you mean you love me?!? :D
@bearacleitus, two days, and you cracked? Dude, you wont last here all that long if you already think this site is too much. Regardless, welcome to the internet. With this post you are basically trying to impose what you think is acceptable and not acceptable, on an OPEN internet forum. This site is a good representation of life in general. Sure, there are awesome people with awesome insight, but there are also pompous/arrogant/egotistical people like you mentioned. Your post here clogged up the discussion board, which in ways is worse for a site like this then people being themselves in comments. Just relax, let things be, and call out people you think are being too obnoxious. Message them if you really have a problem. But stop trying to lay out rules or guidelines for an open internet forum. You will never win in that cause. Also, its your second day here, you barely know how this site works.
@yoinkie, Yes, I do love you. There aren’t many people with native kindness like yours. It’s so fucking frustrating that people cannot read between the lines. Those that talk about compassion the most have no idea what it really is. Showing kindness to the unfortunate and those that suffered the most because life made them being a defensive asshole is the greatest compassion you could give. I was helped when I was an uncontrollable dickhead and I am intending to to the same with those accused wrongly – not because they were ego-driven, mainly because prejudicial hypocrites made them believe they’re distant. I can’t even begin to explain how much I hate that.
@taysand, Well I agree with you on not telling people how to think. I think the man is more worried about the wellfare of HE. He found something great and he wants it to stay great. Sometimes people can sense if a good thing is gonna come to end just by observing its patterns. There are people getting discouraged and if the banter gets out of control people get confused and emotional. Then newcomers to the website think we are all a bunch of argumental hypocrites and get turned off from it. Then for the rest of their lives they will be forever plugged into the matrix.
@bearacleitus, Take a breather. You seem determined and that’s awesome. You want “truth”? It doesn’t exactly mean that every inarticulate post is just bullshit. It’s raw subjective info, there’s always thought brought on to it. Sometimes being basic portrays way more than vain articulateness.