This is not Higher-than-you-Existence
A disclaimer involving blog posts and posters. If you’re coming to this website, it probably means you’re interested in topics that are outside your typical dinner conversation. For that, I would like to welcome you to community who searches for answers amongst all the smoke and mirrors, disillusions, and myths and strives for something that we can all share. However, being that this is my 2nd day on the site, I have found that a lot of people deem it necessary to bring there arrogant, pompous, ignorant, and downright hateful attitudes here as well. So I beg that when participating in meaningful discussion with others that have similar questions, interests, and tastes that you exercise your restraint and humility. There are a lot of intelligent people here with a lot of insightful things to say and there are also a lot of people with an inflated sense of self-worth. Please, reflect the attitudes that you would like to see within your new community. Thank you.
@beyond, I wasn’t demanding anything at all, just simply letting you know how your actions and approach were affecting me. You always have a choice to proceed as you wish, all I can do is fill you in on the consequences that your choices have on my experience.
@bearacleitus, Thanks for shedding some light on those types of members. I don”t think anyone in history had it wrong to at least initiate some sort of policy towards treating others fairly. This site is being flooded with inflated egos who are getting quite annoying, totally turning my attention away from the site. But perhaps me frequenting the site less is more to my own personal growth than the lame behavior, or perhaps both. :)
In response to those who think a post like this is pointless: lol, I bet if Manimal or someone wrote some sort of list of rules you dick riders would hop right on it. The perceived status is what counts and will always count in regards to social behavior.
The simple fact that people are generally becoming agitated by some users on this site definitely needs addressing, and is grounds for this entire thread.
@cognizantelephant, oh ya? So what do you suggest, start banning people who have ego’s or who are arrogant or negative? Ok, so who decides who is arogant or has an ego? And how do you go about even banning them? Are you really trying to say that the internet needs more rules, and someone should control the content? Did you also vote in favor or SOPA?
The day this site comes out with any set of rules or starts banning people for being “arogant or egotistical or just negative” is the day I quit this site and never look back. You have GOT to be kidding me suggesting more control over the internet, or anything for that matter. I swear this site once represented freedom and equality for all. Now, that you start not liking people or their atitudes, you start suggesting control. You remind me of every government that ever existed; state one thing in the beginning, and once people start disagree with your view point you start creating rules to get rid of them.
No I didn’t vote at all for SOPA, I have no say on the matter.
Read the original post, this is only about attitudes on the site.
Fair does not mean communism, stalinism, or marxism. It means fair, not 100% equal as nothing ever is, but at the minimum a fair amount of respect, integrity, intelligence, honesty, maturity of thought and action should be given to all people here. The thing I said about organization shouldn’t assume some past governmental philosophy, just a little damn organization of how things are handled.
The thing I said to you was to make this point clear: There should be some sort of policy, some sort of general conceptual idea that is made known to all people on this site, of how we desire the conduct to be. Emphasis on idea. Internet term: A sticky post, moderators who attempt to express more sound judgement, a list of topics so shit doesn’t get repeatedly questioned over and over. Let the people see the discussions that happened before, it’s no different than reading history so it doesn’t repeat.
Like, for example: Don’t build a devil may care attitude, it’s sickening and pointless to partake in. Take anyone’s opinions, thoughts, and viewpoints seriously and humbly, the people are spewing their fucking minds out for anyone to see, have some integrity. If they are trolling, then handle it how that may be within reason.
I actually don’t get why you said the thing about banning people, I didn’t imply anything of the like. Then you go through scenarios in a hypothetical suggestion you made and blame the fallibility on my original idea. That was lame
@cognizantelephant, the only logical step after an idea is implementation. The OP gave the idea of people stopping being arogant and asked how that could be achieved. Why suggest an idea if there is no way to implement it?
I agree that people should be nicer, but like the world, how can you go about making it happen on a large scale? You can’t, so don’t even bother talking about it. If you do, people gets weird ideas in their head, like banning.
Instead of posting a pointless post such as this, instead just confront the people you have issues with. Ask them to change directly. Have a debate with them, or just send a private message.
Don’t just clog up the forum with a message to ask people to be nicer. You teally think that would work? If you bought 10, 000 planes and had them fly bannets over america asking people to be nicer, you think that would work for more then a day? No.
@bearacleitus, You didn’t notice he was one of the first to jump on this thread and post this meaningless condescending crap?
@beyond “I hope that thread made you feel worthy. You obviously need that. :)”
Is it not clearly obvious how sad this kid is?
Someone asks people to be a little nicer when interacting and this is the response they get.
@yoinkie, Alright, if you joined a club called the “XYZ Attitude club” and you had to have a certain attitude to be there, what kind of attitude would be expected at that club? The XYZ attitude.
But if you have a room full of depressed teenagers, new age hippies, new age extremists, new age ASSHOLES, new age whoever the fuck, there would be no mutual goal or similar aspirations. With no mutual goals or aspirations, what determines what the conduct is to be like? It’s just a fucking hangout, that’s why there’s people talking about their boy/girlfriends and shit.
One could even say that the lack of organization on this site with the certain general idea of simply high existence is enough to make a lot of people join. They join because they all have questions, and we ALL have answers..lots of them shitty, that’s life, it’s fine with me.
If you like chaos and ambiguity I guess it would suit you well.
@cognizantelephant, Fair enough points. But, I would rather have free roam then controlled environment. There are three facts about this universe ive come to know to be true: 1) Gravity exists, respect it. 2) Math is universal and 3) if you give anyone an inch of control, they will soon take a mile. Its just human nature. One person, in a dictatorship, would be better suited to have control then a governing body with a group of individuals, like the government or the people who run this site. One person has one opinion, but a group has many different opinions.
Of course I am talking about the world in general, but lets continue onwards with the HE example. Say we all agree that egotistical people should be given warnings or whatnot. Who then decidedes what amount of ego is too much? How do they take their personal opinions out of it? Hell, I hold my judgement to be above anyone elses I know, but id be lying if I said if I had control I wouldnt abuse it; I have major bias just like every person in the free world.
Instead, keep things the same. Its really really easy for me to ignore posts I dont care about. Meditation thread? Never click it. Boyfriend/gf help needed? Dont care. Astral projection/God/etc? Heard it before, might click it and read a little to see if its worth it. And boom, I move on. Thats much easier for me personally, then if there were rules that would say “if you blah blah, you will get banned.” Hell, Im sure I tend to be egotistical or arogant, people can bring that out of me. What if I get banned for one stupid argument I have, when opverall I feel that im nice on this site? Thats not really fair.
You want actual PROGRESS? Dont create rules, dont give anyone power. INSTEAD, change the format of this site. You know how there is a love button? Put in a hate button, so if a single comment gets, say, 5 negative votes, it gets deleted. This way, the PEOPLE decided the fate of a post, not people in power.
And want to keep the forum from being crowded with repeat, pointless posts? Have a love system there too. Have two seperate thead forums; one that is just every single topic posted, and the other one should be the TOP most “loved” posts. This way, everyone can read every post there is, and love the ones they think deserve to be on the main forum. Then, only the best, most loved posts will be on the main page, while all the others still have a chance to be seen, just not on the main page.
There, is a good solution.
@papashibshib, people, PEOPLE. C’mon. Let us not forget what the likes of manimal, beyond, IJC, and the like have done for this site. They’ve been here for years. And from looking back, they’ve been dicks on here for years. You joined in january, nothing wrong with that but don’t come in thinking these people just arrived. Jokes how you say ‘more often now’ when you’ve been here all of a month. I haven’t been here that long myself, yet I don’t go getting my knickers in a knot every time someone disagrees with me. BTW you are doing exactly what you say beyond does by your post above, I think you fell off your high horse bro.
Also I’ve seen these bickering posts sooooooooo many times…
So how bout that weather.
There is so much of it out there.
@yoinkie, In the end HE is what you make it. Either way there will be issues, which is to say that any decision eventually needs refining.
I’m guessing my points are either not fully understood or something, but this really can’t go further.