Time

Kim (@maraudering) 9 years, 5 months ago

No time machines available (Sadly, no TARDIS). I sort of just want things to speed up. I know that that’s technically not possible but I’ve been advised that relying on a routine helps make it SEEM like it is. Suggestions?

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

You want time to pass by faster? Engage in something profound. Anything that aligns itself with your passions will utilize your time in a way that is fulfilling and wonderful, giving that feeling of time escaping quickly.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@maraudering, Why would you want time to speed up? Most people want it to slow down. Anyways, the best way to live and to keep time at a good rate is to everyday do something new. If you sit at home and watch tv or go on the interwebs all day and make a habit of this, time will go incredibly fast (and usually be boring and lonely). Time will slow down and be much more enjoyable once you leave the past behind, for it is in the past; forget about the future, for you will never reach it if you constantly think about it, and stay in the present moment, right now, for that is the only moment that truly exists. Once you do this, get up, stand up, and go do whatever the hell you want, something new.

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Tao_of_Hard_Knocks (0) (@taoofhardknocks) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@maraudering, I agree with the learning something new plan. Learning new things typically helps time pass faster for myself.

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@maraudering,

Hmm, maybe sleep. To understand the perception of time you must understand the fundamental concept of consciousness: when you are conscious you are aware, when you are not you are not aware. Therefore any time spent “unconscious” is time not experienced. You had no consciousness before you came into existence therefore the a billion years can pass and it’ll feel like nothing for you. So by sleeping, you cut off from experiencing a duration of time.

However, my personal opinion is that you should enjoy the time you have on here, no matter how boring or bad. It’s your life bro, unless you’re one of the few who can’t wait to die then I don’t know why you would want time to pass by faster.

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Jeff (2) (@jefingque) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Time is a man made concept so time is what you make it. Whether you want to slow it or speed it up depends on the individual experiencing it. The passage of time differs for us all. Perhaps there is a way of speeding up ,slowing or travelling through time back and forwards why not. People in this world put to much trust in ‘experts’ .. the truth is we no nothing about our existence and the world around us. We invent things to try and explain the happenings around us. In the past we were told by these experts the Earth is at the center of the universe, the world is flat which we now know all to be wrong so maybe the idea of time travel in generations to come will become a reality.. but I personally think time travel will be more in the form of inter dimensional travel between different existences occurring at once so technically it would not be time travel.

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Kim (0) (@maraudering) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

I think I want it to speed up more in order to get to a certain point. The anticipation can be a bit overwhelming sometimes. I may think too much about the future and forget what’s here and now which I realise is something I need to change if I’m to enjoy anything out of life. I do agree and see the sense of immersing myself in a lot of things. At least I’ll be spending what time there is in a productive, self-improving way.

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@jefingque,

I like the way you think because I am also one those people that feel that everything that is considered truth and “factual” should be questioned and doubted. And words are man-made, truth is not. The truth exists whether or not we know it.

Lastly, you’re partially wrong. Travelling back in time without entering an alternate dimension would be fundamentally impossible: time is like an arrow, it can only go forward. Think about it everybody, things around us are seemingly random but everything is an effect that springs from another effect. What I mean is that you can go to an ice cream store and you can “choose” vanilla or chocolate, but once you make your choice it cannot be unmade…. you later somehow invent a time machine and you travel back to the moment before you pick the ice cream flavor and every fucking time you will pick chocolate.

This is because by travelling back in time, you reverse the firing of the synapses in your brain that led you to pick chocolate the first time. Therefore time travel reverses memory forcing you to repeat all the actions and decisions you made the first time.

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zowie (115) (@zowie) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

why do you want things to speed up? I rather have time stand still so I can enjoy everything in the now.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

Fully imagine that what you’re expecting is happening right now and panic that you’ll be wasting so much time when you could be doing something productive, and you’ll never get that time back, because your impatience made you miserable.

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Deepak (37) (@deepak87) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

I have the exact opposite wish. I want to freeze time for like 4-5 hours, do anything I want and then resume it as its usual pace.

Imagine the possibilities.
1:00pm afternoon – I cannot play jazz on piano
(Freeze time for 10 hours and learn the piece)
1:01pm afternoon – I can play 90% of the piece

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Jeff (2) (@jefingque) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@egarim,

The idea of travelling back in time and making the same choices over and over is something i never thought about it makes sense too. In that case we could have all traveled back in time and would have never noticed. Its good to think outside of the box.. When it comes to freezing time i have always wondered about this if you could freeze time and go about your business would that mean everything on Earth freezes except for the person who is witnessing the time freeze ? Also would this also mean that the molecules in the air would also freeze leading to suffocation? If no suffocation occurred would that mean you would have a harder time moving through the air very difficult due to the molecules frozen. Or would you be able to move at all ? I know its deep thinking into something probably not possible but just some food for thought.

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Anonymous (512) (@) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

“He who knows most grieves most for wasted time.”

“Time will be made available to those whom choose to utilize it.”

Ponder these words if you’d like.

=)

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@deepak87,

Buddy, you need to think a bit more thoroughly about the concept of freezing time.. I’d love to “freeze” time in the manner that you speak, but you must stop for a second and appreciate what time is exactly.

Time allows things to happen. If time FREEZES OR STOPS then technically you can’t do shit. Nothing at all. If you’re moving than time is moving. For the molecules in your body to move through space it has to travel through time. Effectively freezing time would be effectively stopping everything. Heck you prob have the power to freeze time and you just did it but it stopped your brain and thus you have no memory or perception of it.

Nice job.

@jefingque,

Thanks, I always think it’s nice to use my head. And about suffocation… I don’t think it would occur because by totally stopping or freezing time, nothing can happen therefore even the movement of air particles or expiration of the oxygen in your lungs would therefore be impossible.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@egarim, You may find this article interesting. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/extreme-fear/201003/how-the-brain-stops-time

It’s amazing what a mind can do.

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@beyond,

I’ll read all of it later on, I skimmed it and it’s about fear and time dilation. A very interesting topic no doubt but it’s got nothing to do with the ability to stop time itself.

You and I are not talking about the same thing if you are discussing the PERCEPTION of time instead of time ITSELF. The thing is the mind can slow the perception of time but it’s not slowing down time itself. Therefore, the mind can dilate time as much as it wants but it’s not like you can freeze time and learn how to play piano or whatever. When you’re near death seconds become minutes become hours… yeah but for the person dying. For everyone else time moves at the same pace.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@egarim, How does time move at the same pace exactly? You are actually familiar with the speed of the thought process or what? Clocks have a rhythm, the mind can choose its own pace. And I remember something said by Manimal about some monks that reversed aging with their meditation or something. What’s time without aging?

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Deepak (37) (@deepak87) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@egarim, hehe, yea, that was just a kind of hedonistic fantasy…where I can appear to be perfect and have superhuman abilities in front of people (because of my ability to freeze time for others but keep it running for myself alone) and appear like God

But like you said, this totally falls apart once you start serious examination. Freezing time would stop EVERYTHING. So maybe something like, only my perception of time should increase and everyone else/everything else should happen at normal speed.

Kind of like Einstein’s speed of light riddles – if you travel around the world 10 times at the speed of light, you would be only minutes older but the world would be 10 years ahead, something like that, approximate numbers. But what I want is the reverse of that. Maybe a better example would be to simulate the peak of an LSD trip where people have reported 20 minutes of subjective time = one minute clock time. Then the only limit would be performing actions in the physical world i.e. using our body etc. Our mental life would be 20x richer and 20x faster.

So lets say we simulate that peak LSD state, then our lives would be 20 times richer and we would have 20x time. But for this to be a cool fantasy, only 1 person should have this power :P. If everyone has it, then it will lose its value.

After this ramble, I kind of conclude that perception is beyond time. The experience of perception/cognizance exists beyond space-time. And probably what we should really fantasize about is a super fast perception.

About going back in time, a fundamental question would be ‘Does the universe have a memory of sorts?’ Could we tap into this memory dimension and go back to some past era and be a witness of the happenings that time? But if you were to travel back in time and then influence events/people etc. then it would be a parallel universe.
You may be aware of the Gaia principle right ‘all organisms and their inorganic surroundings on Earth are integrated to form a single and self-regulating complex system, maintaining the conditions for life on the planet.’. So a change of even one variable would alter the entire universe from that moment.

About freezing time, I guess that would be a state similar to deep sleep/death where there is no awareness OR there is unified awareness everywhere where there are no objects, everything is one unified whole.

Another pointer for imagination of what freezing time would be is the absolute 0 (-273 deg C). I was just thinking today, what is heat basically? Its energy in the system that animates the particles etc. So at absolute 0 all the molecule/atom/electrons would come to a standstill. With absolutely no moment, visible time would stop (since time basically stands for change).

Just free associating and pondering. Let me know your opinions :)

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@beyond,

Yes, yes I understand that the mind can choose its own pace but the pace that it chooses does not affect time itself. It affects the mind of that person and that person alone. Are you trying to argue that if your mind slows down the perception and pace of time then I will also experience time at a slower rate? That’s illogical and you know it. And clocks are fairly decent keepers of time but I am aware of time’s relation to space and speed. Time is nothing but rather how long it takes for an entity to move a certain distance. I had a good link that explained this in a simple manner but also explained if effectively but I’ve lost that link.

And you’re argument for monks (a type of people that truly fascinates me, seeing as I meditate and train in the martial arts as well and also believe in the body energy and spirit) has little to do with freezing or reversing time. To reverse aging is one thing but you cannot reverse time. If a monk reverses TIME ITSELF then everything would be happening backwards, thus undoing actions and unlearning knowledge and destroying created thoughts and ideas. Even if they are reversing AGING which is a biological process, then are doing it while MOVING FORWARD in time. It’s a new action or event happening. Time is still moving forward.

@deepak87,
And Deepak, we’ll have our talk later haha. I like the way you think and we can talk about this awesome subject later cause I got a couple classes to go to before I’m free.

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@deepak87,

Simulating the peak of an LSD trip?… so basically you mean we should all trip balls hard to enrich our lives hahah. I mean, if time slows 20x it’s still only our perception of time slowing down. Our bodies would not be moving so it’s basically like being in a coma.

Not too sure I wanna be in a coma.

Does the universe have a memory of sorts? … In a way, yes. The universe, at the smallest level, is made up of some form of building block (call it atoms, energy, matter, antimatter, etc). Therefore by this logic everything is made up of the same stuff (to some extent). Because of this unified nature of everything, both living and nonliving, humans and other lifeforms are all part of the universe itself. The universe is one “thing” so to speak. So when life first began we can technically state the the “universe” became alive and aware of itself. Because we “are” the universe. We are the same thing as stones and mountains, except that through the manner in which our bodies are designed/formed, we are given consciousness and awareness.

So in a way, because we all have memories, so does the universe. Maybe it can be tapped into… maybe not. Who knows?

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