Topic overflow

Filip (@filipek) 10 years, 3 months ago

Since I am quite new to this community I am not sure if I can judge about this, but sometimes I feel like there is a huge topic overflow on these forums. What I mean by this is, that most topics do not even reach the second page, before bleeding to dead. Every day new topics are opened and often a lot of them are discussing the same issues, or slightly different issues but in essence talking about the same. In my opinion a lot of discussion do not even have a proper start, because they do not get the chance to.
Just some random thoughts and obviously I am taking part in the ‘topic overflow’ by opening this topic, so no need to mention that.

March 15, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 10 years, 3 months ago ago

Thanks Filip, we are aware of this problem, which we believe is caused by the structure of the site. I promise this will be a thing of the past once we reach 10,000 members ;)

Blah (363) (@tentninja) 8 years ago ago

quality response haha :)

Blah (363) (@tentninja) 8 years ago ago

you should have a look at couchsurfings website for inspiration. They have a really good discussions page layout i think. I always have interesting conversations on there :)

David (325) (@zeitro) 10 years, 3 months ago ago

maybe a solution could be to make categories within categories, for example the ones that says “world affairs” would have within it things like kony and the economy and stuff and such, or within “epiphanies” there’d be like realizations, creations, etc

Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 10 years, 3 months ago ago

It’s tough. People need to make rules for themselves. maybe if typing into the New Discussion box came up with a search that showed you similar discussions. This would eliminate the multiples.

Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 10 years, 1 month ago ago

@martijn, what about your promise? ;)

I am wondering what system we could create in order to let people use the search function more instead of opening so many new, same, topics every day.

Any idea’s? Because I still find it a waste that if I am not able to login for 2 or 3 days, I have to scroll back at least 4 pages (even more nowadays) to see if there are some interesting topics that I could have missed. Numerous topics/discussion do not get a chance to evolve, because of this problem. I am sure that more than 90% does not look further than the third/fourth page.

Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 10 years, 1 month ago ago

@filipek, If I could make the reading of the FAQ for every new member mandatory, I would. I don’t know what to implement to change this, because it shouldn’t be that hard:

Use the reply function to let your conversations partners know
Use categories to find the topics you’re looking for
Bump old topics before you start a new one


daveb (119) (@daveb) 10 years, 1 month ago ago

I don’t think you can do much better than the auto-generated search that appears whenever someone tries to create a new topic, that is slick.

FrEx if you try and start a new topic on Facebook, you’re auto-shown the half-dozen FB topics that already exist. from there, it’s up to the merge-stalkers (done for the FB threads).

Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 10 years, 1 month ago ago

@martijn, I do not think it is a good idea to make it mandatory, because you will scare away a lot of potential readers.

But as I already mentioned in the FAQ topic: it would really help if the FAQ topic would be sticky (at the top of the page) ALL time. How can new members otherwise find the FAQ topic? I think maybe 1% of the new members start by looking for a FAQ topic, others simply begin posting. Making the FAQ sticky would definitely give an improvement, I am 100% sure about that.

And why not putting these sentences at the registration screen or something like that?

“Use the reply function to let your conversations partners know
Use categories to find the topics you’re looking for
Bump old topics before you start a new one”

Or when a new registered member logs in for the first time, he gets a screen with these sentences in the middle (bold, big font)?
I think a lot of people do not even know about these rules. Not everybody has proficient computer knowledge, so we cannot blame everybody (although I think there are a lot of ignorant people, too lazy to search etc.)

Furthermore whenever I will have time and the mood for it (as in: annoyed by all the new similar topics) I will make notice of the duplicate topics ;)

@cognitivedissident, You are right that it does not really feel as a forum, but on the other hand there are advantages as well. Seeing all the topics, no matter in which sub forum they are placed, gives an instant overview of what is happening and you do not have to jump from one topic to the other. But then again this is a problem of topics disappearing into oblivion very quickly.

Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 10 years, 1 month ago ago

@filipek, The FAQ is sticky. In the Welcome to HE forum.

Also, don’t forget the value of a fast paced forum: More pageviews = more $ for Jordan and I.

Joking aside! An ongoing dialectic is not as much as a search for truth, or constant deeper meaning/fundamentals, but more as a constant reconsidering of different perspectives. A constant battle with symbols that threaten your own.

And, the good topics tend to stick for a while too.

Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 10 years, 1 month ago ago

@martijn, I did not know about the fact that it is sticky, maybe I have to visit the sub forums more often.

Yes the good topics tend to stick for a while, not all of them, but a lot of them are. But I think there are a few recurring subjects which come back a few times per week and these could be discussed in one big topic. In that way you would have a better view of different people their opinions, and the discussion could become more interesting. I think a lot of people do not want to repeat themselves each and every time a topic about a specific subject is opened, especially when they talked about it a few days ago.

Just my two cents.

Blah (363) (@tentninja) 8 years ago ago

this is a very good observation :) all are so eager to tell there point, rather than listen to someone elses. Including myself. This needs to change! lol :D shall we start by being the change ourselves my friend?

Blah (363) (@tentninja) 8 years ago ago

i think its got to do with the motives of the users more than how the site is set out.

website designers are constantly trying to adapt a site to its users.

why not try something revolutionairy? why not be patient enough to let the users discuss this and try to resolve the issue with in the community rather than resorting to coding and other none interactional sollutions :D

i like this site, i think its different. the crowd its attracted is a different one to those i’ve experienced elsewhere. I think if you have faith, and invest more time in trying to spark conversations within the community that people want to talk about!!!

we need to come up with more interesting subjects together. think of ways to better the site by bettering ourselves.

I’m not suggesting the content isnt good in fact its giving me a lot of enjoyment.

I’m just suggesting lets not limit ourselves here ;) lets explore other ways of resolving this issue.

lets think out of the box together.

Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years ago ago

Yea as of now categorizing them when starting them doesnt do much because the topics arent later divided that way for people to choose a topic. Making it possible for us to click topics might help. Peace.

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Gare (32) (@JurassicParking) 4 years, 8 months ago ago

The prime Hethen discussion boards died a long time ago. The amount of random spam has collected is constantly peering in. I couldn’t even run HE a year ago on my old computer because it was bogged down my many ads. Now I see “three” sports disccusions popping up on active disccusions (the fuck) I come here to escape sportsball and frivolous topics. I made a lot of strong connections with people on this site, but it seems those users don’t post as much, or just left altogether. I mostly browse articles now. Even these weird cartoon icons by our name just make it feel cheesy as hell lol. I’m a little salty only people I feel like HE sold out a little bit. I mean I get it its a business, you need to eat and innovate, but I still feel like it took away some genuine backbone out of the picture, and had more focus on selling posters, or “crazy fucking hoodies/shirts,” piss off. I’d probably do the same thing. HE just seems foreign to me now. It used to be to simple with honest results. HE feels like a skeleton with a dollar bill in it’s mouth. I know things change, butI can’t tell if my bias if cloudying my thoughts or if HE sold out a bit. 

Example: I bought the fucking poster. I’m trying to read. Stop asking me if I want to refuse the challenges…lol

Does anyone else feel this way? I’ve been going on here for about 5 years. I’m just curious. 

J. (2) (@jennaydoesntloveyou) 4 years, 4 months ago ago

Hi there. I’ve known HE for about 5 years by now as well. I was a huge fan in the beginning, I found it extremely useful in learning about other people’s perspectives and making friends. I feel that not only has the quantity of threads increased, but the quality seems to have decreased proportionally. I often get the feeling that people are making statements that lack valid arguments, turning the whole thread into a mess of wild assumptions and meaningless comments. I find that a bit sad, because I used to learn a lot on here from other experienced peers. Now it’s just mostly about drugs or relationship advice.

Gare (32) (@JurassicParking) 3 years, 1 month ago ago

The articles are still a nice read. The discussions have plummeted. Things change, I’m sure theres other grass root sites like HE used to be. I

m not a fan of the goofy avatars either lol,  What is this, chucky cheese?

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