Unconditional Basic Income

 Grand Kahlib (@kahlib) 7 years, 9 months ago
January 5, 2014 at 8:02 pm
Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

This is what I added to that conversation;

“People think that if you give people what they need they wont want to work, then all those who do work carry a bunch of non-contributors through life. I think they are looking at it wrong; a person who is content with some standard allocation may not need to work but they do not consume, not on the level that people with money to spare do, it actually makes things more sustainable.

People who do work no doubt will get their compensation for doing so, and with that can acquire their rewards, rewards that one who does not work will not have access to. So if you are happy with a standard allocation then fine, if not then work and earn more, but don’t complain about those who are content with the standard.

But what is a persons potential? Is it being all they want to be or is it being all society wants them to be? Or perhaps some balance of the two? At what point is a line drawn in self-determination and social obligation? Is it self-sufficiency (relative to a persons membership to a society)? I think it is societies duty to prepare each person with the abilities necessary to strive for their own potential, however they define it personally, if they prove a contributor or not is beside the point, a contributor will be rewarded while someone who is merely embracing their own potential will be satisfied. And best if you can do both.”

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

When you think about Capitalism, it is founded on the principle that when a person strives for themselves, the rest of society inadvertently benefits, but the true meaning of this philosophy is lost on modern Capitalism, my point here is the real incarnation of the sentiment.

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Mike (42) (@DLLRE) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

For me, work is important. Regardless of whether or not I am financially stable or supported, I will continue to work for the sense of accomplishment I love from seeing a job well done. Money doesn’t matter to me, and I do not matter to it. I’ve never really understood the value of a dollar, but I’ve always been able to understand the value of something rare.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

That’s it, I work in my own way because it is rewarding in my own way, if I get money or not for doing it doesn’t really matter to me, it is about that sense of accomplishment, as you say, a job well done.

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