Wake Induced Lucid Dreams

 Rob (@toastysidearm) 8 years, 2 months ago

Has anyone ever had a WILD before? Can you give me some insight? How was it? What was the transitional period like? How did you prepare yourself? Was it easy? What are some tips? I had half a WILD once but was never fully immersed, and I am so incredibly intrigued by lucid dreams. Give me a recount of your “wild” experience!

August 15, 2013 at 9:07 pm
Conner J. (1,558) (@connerj93) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@toastysidearm, I’ve had some lucid dreams, most came after I began a dream journal for like a month and went back and studied each one, mapping out my subconscious mind. The thing that struck me most about lucid dreaming is the intense and psychedelic-like detail that you see in everything, and its that very attention that keeps you in the dream. . . the longer you can keep your attention focused within the dream, and not stray to think say, that you’re actually dreaming, you’ll stay immersed. It’s not easy i’ve found to keep attention and its not easy to stay in the dream though it does get easier as you practice. The key moment with lucid dreaming is being aware during the transition between the moment of falling asleep and before the dream begins. I compared it to floating in absolute nothingness, then you can create from there. It’s honestly like creating one’s own universe, which is crazy to think about, since we’re all known to do the same in ‘real life’.

As for having a WILD, it’s best you practice meditation or ‘dream yoga’. This could be more difficult to do and every waking dream i’ve had has been random and accounted with a surprise DMT surge while meditating. It’s used by out-of-body explorers or astral projectors and is closely related to that. I’d say practice the sleeping lucid dreaming first, and become good at that. . . those are easier to manage for a WILD is easier to snap out of just from sheer intensity of the vividness.

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Rob (4) (@toastysidearm) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@connerj93, Beautiful, you added some great tips in there. I’ll definitely start with the in-dream lucidity before I try dabbling into WILD’s.People always say how effective/crucial a dream journal is, but I guess I haven’t done it long enough to really see the gains. Because that’s the hardest part for me, the first “being conscious” moment in your dream. I only remember them when I wake up, like they were happening to me but I was watching a movie almost, a first-person shooter if you will. Dream journaling would be your biggest tip to help with this you’d say?

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Bartleby the Scrivener (29) (@unpaid-intern) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@connerj93, DO you feel like a dream journal is essential to performing lucid dreaming or WILD?

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Conner J. (1,558) (@connerj93) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@toastysidearm, @unpaid-intern, Before I began to journal my dreams, I could only remember the whole picture or the overlaying theme to them; such as if they were abstract, crazy, flying, swimming, nightmarish etc. Then I started one and all of the dreams I had written down I could remember verbatim detail to detail of the whole dream without re-reading what I wrote. It’s a creative act within itself, to take something that exists in the subconscious mind and throw it into reality makes it REAL, and no longer a dream. Then even after you can recite their detail, you can go back and study the hidden gems and bits of knowledge that rest within the dreams. You can literally work out your real-world problems by reading through a dream play by play, its extraordinary and should be practiced for general mental health regardless of lucid dreaming. I believe it makes you smarter and more in control of yourself, of emotions, and of thought processes. And for that reason they are essential, in my opinion, to use for lucid dreaming. What the journal will do is allow you to map out your thoughts, express your true creativity (some weird fucking shit will come up, trust me this is the peak of myself questioning my sanity), and to bring those thoughts out to allow new ones to form. You can keep track of what you think, how you think it, and when you think it. And in doing that you can forcibly open the gateway that leads to the ‘other side’. To become really good at lucid dreaming through controlling thought takes a whole lot of practice and a whole lot of patience and discipline to keep going, even if things seem mellow or uneventful.

No one will reach complete lucid dreaming in an instant, though it does come at random without any prior knowledge of the subject, the more you think about being able to control a dream and to lucid dream, the greater chance you will at doing so. I also recommend doing something I did to have for in the beginning of dreaming, and that was to put a rubber band around my wrist and snap it every 30 min and memorize the pain and how it felt. Some times in lucid dreaming I’d instinctively go to snap my rubber band out of habit and either there was no rubber band or there was no feeling to the snap and then I’d realize I was dreaming. You can pinch yourself or use other triggers to help you become aware of being unaware. Which is fucking crazy, I apologize I’m figuring more shit out while writing this. . .

In the beginning there was nothing right? Well in theory, that nothing wanted to view itself and split itself apart thus becoming two things, one looking into one and vice versa at the same time thus rendering one of the two, the original, to cease to exist creating only one universal plane in which all things exist. When we lucid dream we literally look back into where we have been created from, like folding a sock into itself. When we create a dream we actually create a space, with a different time perception in accordance with our current reality in which infinitely amount of happenings could occur at one single moment–another life… though to us we only get a glimpse at mere seconds or shorter into the veil, but to the other side its years or billions of years. . . Haha Alan Watts everyone: “I wonder, I wonder, what you would do if you could dream, at night, any dream you wanted to dream. . . because after all what would you do if you were God?”

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Mr. Arbiter (86) (@snaysler) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Here is an unedited excerpt of a WILD from my dream journal:

7/25/13

Finally, I had a night full of dreams after what feels like weeks of hardly dreaming. At this point I don’t recall the dreams, but I do recall one of the more recent ones. It was a lucid dream. I achieved lucidity in the following way. As I woke from my slumber, I remained still with my eyes closed, watching the surprisingly vivid hypnogogic imagery build up. Eventually, the hypnagogic imagery seemed to display some environment, some place. As it did so, I focused on this imagery and allowed it to fill in with greater and greater detail. Once it did so, I was not just seeing this environment, I was in it. No break in consciousness between being awake and entering this LD state. The dream was remarkably stable today. If I’m not mistaken, it lasted for at least 15 minutes, which is a very long time for any dream to last. Last time, I learned to face my fears. This time I learned a much neater ability; one that I’ve always failed to achieve in the past. Teleportation. I found that by quickly spinning around in place I would become disoriented from my surroundings, and then if during this process I was thinking intently about what the view would look like from somewhere else, the thought would become reality and there I was living in that viewpoint in my new destination. I tried this technique multiple times, but only locally. I would look over at a location not thirty feet away from me and would imagine a viewpoint from that location and spin there. It worked every time. I did notice, however, that the less focused I was on the image of what I thought the new perspective would look like, the more of a tendency there was for something to “change”. One instance of this was a car in the viewpoint that I didn’t give enough attention and after I spun closer its front and back wheels were suddenly really out of proportion.

I can’t say for sure why I had a WILD this time. The most common occurrence of this happening is when I take a mid-day nap. But this one happened in the morning…just an ordinary morning.

@connerj93, “I compared it to floating in absolute nothingness, then you can create from there.” Yes! Very good description. That nothingness is a state that has always intrigued me greatly. The trouble is that getting to that state is spontaneous for me, but at least it’s semi-frequent.

@toastysidearm,
I guess my best advice would be to have a strong desire and intention. I’d never even had a half-way vivid dream before I made a conscious effort to induce a lucid one. And it worked. But not how I expected! I tried the reality check method, and various other tricks but nothing quite worked. I’d nearly given up. Then one morning I got up and watched the sun rise. After an hour or so I went back to bed to get some more sleep and BAM!!! I was in the most surreal realistic world and I knew I was sleeping! I knew the time of day, and who I was, but I was in a dream world of incredible detail. It was a revolutionary experience having my first one back then. Since then I’ve had probably thirty or so. It’s been about a year. If you want something hard enough then your mind will always conspire to help you achieve it. But try the wake-back-to-bed method. Works pretty damn well. But if you get a WILD as opposed to a normal LD, then those are the best. Those are always the most clear and meaningful. To keep these stable, it’s very important to focus your attention on viewing your surroundings. If you “daydream” in a dream, or let your mind drift, then your dream world will shatter and you will wake up. You have to stay super vigilant on perceiving with your senses. But a mid-day nap is the best way to induce a WILD in particular.

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Conner J. (1,558) (@connerj93) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@snaysler, Holy shit man, I’ve had wayyyy too many similar dreams like the one you mentioned, which excites me like a child. I’ve had dreams to where I wake from sleeping and open my eyes through my third eye such as astral projection and the kaleidoscope interweaving designs built up before me and gone into a real world situation where cataclysmic events take place, kinda like a vision, and I learned the ability to force grab and to manipulate matter with the mind. I remember seeing universal language along the floor and walls and someone guiding me to use my power. Then I woke up once more within astral projection and floated above my body, and I remember telling myself how cool it would be to just float around town like this, then I connected with reality and I woke up completely.

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whemby (5) (@whemby) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@toastysidearm For about a month I have been practicing simple meditation at night to try to bring on WILDs. Usually about 20 minutes after my body has been completely relaxed and my breathing controlled I become extremely uncomfortable for about 5 minutes, then I feel a weight come over me and comfortability comes back. At this point I can hardly feel any parts of my body and cannot move. When I open my eyes I can imagine things and see them appear before my eyes, while the whole time my eyes struggle to close again. From here I either fall asleep in the same position or roll over, and these meditations are frequently followed by a lucid dream. While this takes time and practice, I definitely saw quick improvement in the number and vividness of my lucid dreams when I began keeping a dream journal. Like some of the previous posts have stated, at first I could only recall certain aspects of the dream. By the 5th dream I could recount nearly every detail. Also, I noticed that on mornings someone or an alarm woke me up suddenly, as opposed to me waking up on my own time, I would forget parts or all of my dreams.

@unpaid-intern While a dream journal was not necessarily essential for me, it definitely helped train my brain to recall the dreams. Whats the point of having awesome dreams if you can’t remember them? I usually just roll over and make a note on my iPhone as soon as I wake up.

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