We Are Infinity

Kenneth L. Lathrom (@Kenneth Lathrom) 7 years, 9 months ago

Everything that exists is interpreted by us. Our evaluation, of the numbers which comprise our universe, is flawed by our observance. Zero itself is an infinite collection of all possible values; equal to infinity but at the base. What we are is described by our sentience. What is sentience? Sentience is the ability to actively observe, change, and develop the universe in which we reside. So we as sentient beings are infinity. We are possibility in motion; a collection of all possible variables each with infinite outcomes. This grand idea of information outside of time is what makes our experience unique. If gravity was only slightly stronger, the Higgs field denser, your coffee warmer this universe and all its beauty would be nonexistent. So what is it that defines you? What are we really, but the infinite collection of possibility.

February 25, 2014 at 8:02 am
LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Nous

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Bono (18) (@bono95zg) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

agrees

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Anonymous (64) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Really intriguing post. But I disagree.

The universe without observation is infinite because quantum particles, potentially the spiritual and physical essence of this reality, are only potential in this unobserved state. Essentially infinite waves until acted on or observed in which case they then become particles and finite. Paradoxically, we as ‘sentient beings’ actively observing and interacting with the universe make it finite. Much in the way as using numbers corrupts the infinity of zero by labeling. The ancient traditions teach you to clear your mind and be passive in order to become enlightened or infinite. In this way our ‘sentient’ nature seems to corrupt infinity. Perhaps there is ego in considering sentience a virtue.

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Anonymous (64) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Let me rephrase that last line.

Not meaning to say someone is egotistical for considering sentience a virtue.

Meaning to say, that perhaps, sentience itself is ego in that, at is essence, we feel ourselves above nature with the power to objectify it and judge it. When we stare out at the cosmos and wonder where we come from it is surreal to think we are the hydrogen atoms of the universe assembled in a way to look outward and question their origin, but that is a lot of objectifying ourselves and question how we got here. In those questions we convert the infinite to the finite. If we could turn off the sentient monkey mind and be at one with the cosmos (as we already are) then we would be infinite. Hell, just assigning the label infinite to something makes it finite.

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Kenneth L. Lathrom (7) (@Kenneth Lathrom) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Your ideas are intriguing, however it depends on your interpretation of quantum mechanics. There are many versions and many changes. Everet’s many worlds interpretation would have us believe that all possibilities exist as a separate state within a higher dimension. Furthermore, assigning an infinite value to anything does not, in an logical way, make it finite. You also seemed to misinterpret the meaning of my piece. As beings capable of willfull change, or acts of causality, we have the power to alter the course of events. Chance is another factor but if considered constant we determine the eventuality in which we exist through our interactions with the omniverse. The omniverse being, again, the collection of all inconceivable and conceivable information. Sentience is not a virtue more a result of our ability to make willful decisions. Although true free will is surely non-existent.

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Anonymous (64) (@) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Love the topic. And love that there is a place (HE) where there can be a discussion of this kind of thing. It breaks the bounds of what is known and is a type of speculation that doesn’t cross the boundaries of spirituality and physics as we observe it, but merges them. Not newtonian physics to control and harness the power of the physical world around us, but metaphysics to merge with the universe inside of us.

I, personally, don’t think all possibilities exist as a separate state. I think the potential of all possibilities exist and that by observing or interacting with that potentiality we do assign a finite value to the infinite and cause it to come into ‘being’ in our universe which then fixes it in other universes (and vice versa). In my mind, I always come back to the electron cloud at the sub atomic level (and I have no background in this stuff so I am sure my knowledge is flawed). The electrons are just potential until fixated and ‘mere’ observation or interaction (be it a scientific instrument, sight, hearing, smelling, touching, tasting, considering, feeling emotion about, or even praying) brings that electron, that atom, that molecule, and the whole physical entity into being.

Totally agree it is interpretation and I’m playing with things I don’t barely comprehend. I just have a sense that we are getting closer to the ‘truth’ and that the very consciousness (sentience?) that allows us to perceive this reality resides at the quantum level. I think quantum particles are consciousness themselves.

One other thing is that we are bound by these lexiconic conventions. We only have one word for ‘sentience’ with maybe a few adjectives and descriptors to coax the meaning of what we are talking about out of this language. I am always amazed when I gain some insight into the ancient languages like sanskrit at how there are more words and nuanced lexicons to describe these kinds of topics. As if we as a culture once knew more about these topics then we do now. Somehow we have expunged this gnosis from our culture as evidenced by our language.

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hello (113) (@smortlur51) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I like your ideas. And I have a bit of knowledge about electrons, and what you said sounds about right. But I just wanted to say, what you said about language reminded me of the book ‘1984’. If you haven’t read it then you definitely should, but in it the government is implementing a new language in which they take out many words and trim down the language so much so that it is impossible to talk about certain subjects such as freedom and equality. Your point on language made me think of that.

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Teapain (8) (@Teapain) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I am new to the theories you speak of and find your piece rather confusing to be honest. Can you shed some more light on your idea of zero being an infinite collection of all possible values?

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Kenneth L. Lathrom (7) (@Kenneth Lathrom) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I can’t take credit for those that came before me. It’s a provocative piece about dimensionality and the role of the conscious mind (or sentience). This link explains the concept of zero in a logical and radical way. Rob Bryanton is rather intriguing and has many videos on the subject. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=emlcwyvnsg0

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Anya (0) (@warpspeed23) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

Doesn’t possibility imply that an event has not actually occurred yet but is merely a prediction in one’s mind?

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Joseph (114) (@warriors41) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

I watch a vid of an elephant painting today. The beauty of being able to see into another animals mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foahTqz7On4 Here it is.
I think if I can define myself as an infinite collection of possibility, so can an elephant that can paint, We are part of all living things in this space of infinity. Our experience is not unique, our experience is all experiences throughout every moment. If gravity and “higgs” density were stronger, why couldn’t there be other universes within those densities, only different. Being infinite, I say these changes are spread out throughout time, only we can’t experience it at the same time as this, therefore it is alien. I often feel like I am defined as something special that was made for this world. A world that gives me sentience. Created for a world that lets me create the world. What makes humans so different than this elephant? I think it is the humans nature to destroy. Although, going back to the density thing, what if there was a way to alter through this collection of possibility. Change world. Suddenly wake up and be somewhere better. We all have this power in how we use our sentience. Zero is not infinity. Zero is nothing. Infinity is not nothing. There is emptiness all around us.

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Bono (18) (@bono95zg) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

you dont observe numbers lol. we invented them…

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Joseph Maverick (0) (@Joseph Maverick) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

The mere idea of infinity makes my bones tremble. I feel obligated to emphasise that we are infinite inside ourselves. We are infinite in the way that we can play soccer just with the same nature that we smoke a blunt. The possibilities of what we can do with are existence are infinite. However, I do believe there is an end to all of this, I believe that someday we will live as we have never lived before…call it afterlife or just death. The fact is, if life would continue as we know it after we leave this place, we should’ve already known. Interesting thoughts!

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zowie (115) (@zowie) 7 years, 9 months ago ago

so we are creators in a creative universe

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