What are we?

Eric (@blankey) 9 years, 9 months ago

I was driving home from my friend’s house today and on my way in I decided to stop the car, get out, and look at the stars. While tracing over Orion’s Belt and gazing at the pure brilliance of the universe, I had this thought: We are simply a result of the universe trying to observe itself.

Now, I would like your thoughts on that. Help me expand it, break it down, debunk it, everything.

February 23, 2012 at 7:26 am
Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

Look in one direction and you may see everything unimaginable.

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Peter (152) (@searchingforthetruth) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

How does apparently non-intelligent matter assemble itself into such a complex structure that can measure and observe itself. What can explain such a diversity of life on this planet starting from from the basic building blocks?

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

We are a result of the universe, fact. What do we, us humans, do? We observe the known universe, trying to figure it all out. We’ve gone so far as to making up ridiculous stories of the origin of it all. Then came science. We are only getting better at observing/using it.

@Sasho, Care to elaborate?

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

We effect the reality around us with our observations. It’s like the micro makes us up(the macro), yet we dictate certain aspects of the micro. We’re a higher system, yet still part of the smaller systems. Is there a higher system than human consciousness? The universe perhaps has this consciousness, and we must be part of making this hierarchical system up. We make up the universe’s consciousness through observation, yet the universe keeps us in check. It’s simply just amazing to me that there are so many different types of consciousness just on our earth in some part of space. How does other animals observation effect the reality they perceive?
In any case, it seems the universe is a fan of complexity, so I only see the spectrum of observation increasing going forward. I mean, we are a combination of only certain things within the spectrum of the universe. The potential there is amazing. I personally feel as though we are a result of the universe wishing to experience ever flavor of existence it can.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@Eric elaborate how? Poetic ? Scientific ? I can do both. But I don’t see the point. It’s like saying that the earth needed us to have plastic.
I can assure you that you were the only one observing and eventually getting the idea. But we can’t observe big parts of the universe. We’re too young as species.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@Sasho, Yes, I suppose I was the only one observing this and getting that idea at that very moment? Okay? And I see your point now, but okay. I was mainly looking at this in a philosophical view, but alright.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

“We are simply a result of the universe trying to observe itself.”
This sentence alone has more sense than I can comprehend.

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Daniel Gonçalves (2) (@Daniel-Goncalves) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

What are we but an extremely unlikely combinations of random events? What are we but a mere complex combination of atoms founded in the heaviest of stars? What are we but a miscroscopic dust particle on an infinite web of nothingness filled with bits of something?

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Anonymous (0) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, For some reason this resonates well with me; We all know we are energy. If everything is energy we are part of the everything and at the same time we are everything. So what you said here, “We are simply a result of the universe trying to observe itself.” is very accurate. We are pretty much “god” experiencing itself in a limited way. Imagine if you were god like Alan Watts said you would eventually get bored of being god and want to play not god. I like to look at this reality as a virtual one. One that wasn’t programmed but evolved into what it is, that is why it is so detailed. Opposed to a programmed reality like The Sims which, we haven’t reached the level of intricacy we have in this reality. So another example would be the Sims character’s they are part of the game but they are also the whole game and what is controlling the game in this case the engine which is invisible to them because it is outside their reality. Just like it is to us. So in short we are Consciousness experiencing itself in physical form.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

we are here to fuck up. if everything was perfect then we wouldn’t have any purpose.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, it’s a beautiful thought to say the least.

Why do we need or want to observe ourselves? What do we want to learn if anything? Are we just exploring ourselves like with meditation?

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Dickie Blue (0) (@twisted.Equilibrium) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

“What is life when there is nothing but life?”

I’ll tell you what confuses me: –

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Goglosh (28) (@goglosh) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

We are simply a result of the universe trying to observe itself.

That’s old, yet always new. Just a handful of sentences can overwhelm me the way this one does.
This is how I see it
There is this “reverse entropy” by which I mean the universe actually arranges itself to a higher order. From cosmic dust to galaxies, suns and planets, all the way through unicellular life forms to mammals and finally humans, the universe does all this in some sort of evolutionary process to achieve it’s final goal: humanity.
But is there an “intelligent” reason the universe acts this way? I say: perhaps. I’m not even talking a god, (although I do believe) but something else: genetic algorithms.
In Computer Science (a branch of mathematics really) a cellular automaton is an n-dimensional array in which every element can be either of x states, changing it according to it’s own state and those of the elements that surround it. Obviously the universe is far more complex than Conway’s Game of Life, but I think it could be something similar in essence.
Universality in CS is when a simple set of rules (such as those applicable to a Cellular Automaton) can be arranged to do any computation possible. Conway’s Life and the Turing Machine are examples of this, as well as your PC.
And a genetic algorithm is the process of arranging a string of data (a chromosome) in such a way that it leads to a purpose. In biology it’d be plain survival, but why not take a wider look and think about it as “the ability to reason”?

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Stoney Baloney (614) (@adamm0ss) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

Im here for the gang bang.

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Conner J. (1,558) (@connerj93) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, I’ve wondered, quite frequently. . . and as a child would, I searched for answers. The only answer I’ve ever come across is the most simple. “What am I?” “I am.” If there would be anything more simple, it would be so complicated our insufficient minds couldn’t grab ahold and understand. Such as the ‘ohm’ we are complete and fundamental awareness witnessing ourselves as energy, and so the two dance together.

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Anonymous (127) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

The meaning of life pales in comparison to the mystery surrounding it.

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SinD Rae (19) (@araeya09) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@goglosh, Your idea of a reverse entropy resonates with me, but my question is why you think the final goal of the universe is humanity?

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Goglosh (28) (@goglosh) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@araeya09, I don’t, actually. It was an old idea of mine and I just said it here to avoid digression. But I still believe it’s a breakpoint in the universe’s evolution. Then come the memes as Dawkins suggested them (thoughts as life forms, which evolve and stuff) and Idk what then.
At the end I guess the answer will be 42, it has to be

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weedwinewander (1) (@nwine) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

I just love your perspective and your mind. @blankey

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ZenCowboy (179) (@zencowboy) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, exactly! Great perspective. I do this too!

“…All of existence is connected and only appears seperate due to seperation of consciousness manifesting as individual entities. But all of these factors together result in the perpetuation of harmony in the continued collective effort of understanding.
Without everything being as it is in every moment there would be no point or direction of existence…”
Quoting myself here, but only because I’m too tired to re-write this.

I believe all of existence is Consciousness’s attempt at expressing and then understanding itself.

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daniel (24) (@dany) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

There are just as many aswers as there are people to this question.Are you asking from a scientific standpoint,or from the perspective of the artist gazing at the stars,from a religious view or from a philosophical viewpoint.This answer has a highly subjective answer,at least for now,we don’t know enough about the univers yet, to extrapolate a more common answer.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@nwine, Thank you :)


@connerj93
, I’ve found the answer is that there is no answer. So when looking for truth, just look to yourself. The more we search externally, the more we lose hope because there is nothing to be found. The moment we look (not search) internally is the moment it all makes sense…or won’t at all. :P


@zencowboy
, For sure. A couple of days ago I smoked an insane amount of weed and at one point I was talking about how this moment, everything, was like the bag scene in American Beauty : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qssvnjj5Moo

After that, when I was laying down, I literally felt like I was in a vortex, or I guess I was a vortex and everything is. A singularity. Time is always now, always here, always still. And yet, it keeps flowing, keeps being “sucked” away. It was almost too intense, but still enjoyable. I could “feel” the room around me as well. Still can if I meditate enough whilst sober.

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