What Can Society Culturally Sanction?

 Peter (@whiteout)5 years, 11 months ago

I had a conversation with my father yesterday about an article on education in a feature called Imprimis. (full article here if you’re interested: http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/current) A key part of our discussion was this quote: “Instruction has become ‘less a matter of transmittal of an objective, and culturally sanctioned body of knowledge,’ and more a matter of helping individuals learn to construct their own realities.” We disagreed whether this is a helpful change. I think that it is. I think people need to be free to participate in their own lives without behind held back by what is “culturally sanctioned.” He told me society would disintegrate without such ideals. Yet, historical characters from Galileo to Rosa Parks have helped humanity to progress by going against the grain. How do we decide what is an acceptable cultural sanction?

December 19, 2013 at 10:49 pm
Gabriel (2) (@gabrielong1992) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

WOOHOO 1st comment! I’m not sure about our cultures today, like whether they’re good for us, because i don’t understand the meaning behind our cultures. What has it done to ease our minds and hearts? Do they teach us unconditional love in its purest forms? Does it teach us the truths on how to appreciate the natural world that supports us? Culture needs to have meaning, Like mayans who prays to the sun. If a culture that promotes us to wait for instructions, then it’s slowing us down. If a culture contradicts our hearts, then it needs reevaluation. pce.

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Bianca A (101) (@biancavila) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

I’m so happy you posted this. I broke down crying the other day because it really hit me that we are born with our freedoms taken away. We are born into a place where we are not completely free. Adding onto @gabrielong1992 ‘s post, I feel like the things that are culturally sanctioned are not the “right” things. So even if the cultural sanctions that are in place now, fall, who cares? They have no value to me. I feel like it’s something man created. It’s a playground. What’s the purpose of it all? The economy isn’t real. It’s just a game we made up. And everyone’s playing it, because that’s what we were born into.

So why do we accept this? How did it come to be? Desire. Selfishness. Intolerance. Inability to truly understand anyone else’s point besides our own. Hunger for power. Exploitation. We don’t love. We don’t love other people. We don’t love this planet. We don’t understand other people. We don’t understand this planet. We build houses so we can be apart from nature. We don’t like the cold air. We don’t like the rain. We don’t like it when it’s too hot. We have separated ourselves from our roots. For a really really long time. Because that’s what was given to us. And now it’s so big that it seems like we can’t bring it down. Now it seems like going for what we truly want – patience, love, compassion – is too big of a task to accomplish worldwide. This is the way it seems, to me.

I think, I hope a revolution will come soon.

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Anonymous (30) (@) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

Maybe those things seem hard to accomplish worldwide, but what about individually? Opt out of the game, go your own way, be patient, loving, and compassionate. You are the revolution. If enough others join in that will become the new culture and those will be the new beliefs culturally sanctioned!

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Gabriel (2) (@gabrielong1992) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

wow. true H.E material. Albert Camus style. @quimby

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Bianca A (101) (@biancavila) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

That’s why I say “I think, and hope” that a revelation will come soon. I, myself, do this, but I don’t think we’re quite at the point where the tolerant way is able to become dominant yet. I think, and hope, it will happen soon. Love cannot be disregarded.

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vivaciouslyv (24) (@vivaciouslyv) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

Beautifully said. Once one is able to distinguish individuality from societal teachings they are able to overcome culture. I believe that culture, like much else, has not adapted to larger organized societies. It is a blanket for a multitude of teachings, beliefs, and traditions that is often geographically stereotyped. Finding your individual “culture” is the beginning to the revolution. Though it is not easy, and often is frowned upon, it is the one path to “enlightenment” or “self-awareness.”

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Gabriel (2) (@gabrielong1992) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

Seems to me, like you’re going through an enlightening phase. It’s not breaking news that there are evil in this world, humans being deceived and dehumanized. But understand this, It’s sad truth but the world isn’t ready yet. We’re young, throw us any emotional breakdown, we can just go smoke weed or party with our friends. But the elders like 30 and above, They’ll throw a major catastrophic fit, because they wont be able to accept the world as it is or the lies they feed themselves. One thing good about the evil and the police is that they somehow keep the world a little more sane. I dont want my neighbours toddler to be hiding from guns ( its easier to get guns than drugs now) and lynch mobs, and definately not another fkin diary of anne frank. Save the youth from gangnam style, put their minds into gear for our next floating Noah’s Ark. The future depends on us, Don’t just go all fullblown hippy and say why aren’t we living like hobbits, that too is a bit selfish, especially to the guys who brought you this internet connection

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Peter (73) (@whiteout) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

I’m glad you said that about the internet. Hobbits are a great example of beings living in harmony with each other, but you’re right. They don’t have internet, or air travel or so many other things that are available to us. I think the attitude can still be there, however. “Evil,” as it were, stems from irresponsibility. Someone sees an opportunity to take something (usually a lot) for themselves, and they do it. That’s what many of us are taught. “You’re on your own.” “Take what you can get.” Even, “Life is what you make of it.” (these can all be taken positively or negatively) We need to move away from a society where ALL the focus is on grabbing life’s reigns no matter who gets stepped on, to a culture that is still self-empowered but always holds the question in mind: Will this harm other people? Despite what some say everything does not have to be give and take.

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Peter (73) (@whiteout) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

What a surprise to see these thoughtful replies! This is my first post on HE. It’s a wonderful community. I’ll be coming back thanks to you guys.

Life IS a game. It’s something we all play at. The way I see it we all play by different sets of rules every day. All of those come from outside (work, school, society, etc.) expect one. We all make our own sets of rules to live by as we live life: through experiences, past decisions, encounters with other people, we ultimately choose what we think about the world.

I hope for a revolution too! We’re on our way. When individuals trust other individuals at a basic human level, I think we will be there.

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Ray Butler (1,422)M (@trek79) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

I respect self determination and self sufficiency, although self sufficiency in its true form isn’t really possible in the context of community, that is more defined by “pulling your own weight” where society is about people sharing strengths and weakness in order to better round out each others lives, about ensuring opportunity and a decent quality of life/standard or living.

Generally I think most people are not really obliged to contribute beyond their own sustenance, but that is because most people have enough on their plate providing for their own, but where your sphere of influence begins to branch out beyond your immediate life you take with it certain duties of care and responsibility relative to that influence.

This is really the big battle going on in society; people declaring their right to only serve themselves and what they choose versus making a contribution to the world, drawing fair lines for people where their rights end and their responsibilities begin, this is not easy especially considering those of great wealth and power are certainly more interested in maintaining and augmenting that position, and anywhere they can play their rights to avoid any social duty they will, and work to expand it.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 5 years, 11 months ago ago

morality doesn’t exist.

however, a given society determines its own morals/ethics. this is the inherent nature of any community. This could be a group of friends, a family, a nation, etc.

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