What can we really do against tyranny?

Nick (@peyotecult) 8 years, 9 months ago

I don’t think the issue is ignorance, I think it’s more of what can we really do? I’ll try not too bore you with a wall of text.

After watching a sandy hook video and watching this medical examiner talk on live T.V, laughing and tweaking like a fool is a joke. I don’t know if people are scared to admit something else really went on such a touchy subject or if americans are really that ignorant as they’re portrayed. Take away our second amendment and you leave us with a militia with no arms. Take away any means of fighting back and you have a slave drive. When comes the time for action to be taken? It’s mind boggling to even fathom what can we really do against this power, money hungry machine? If the people are what really give this government what can we do? When do we stand up and not just speak on it? I’m asking for help for any ideas, thoughts, or plans that could be taken against this shadow of corruption.

February 27, 2013 at 9:07 pm
Conner J. (1,558) (@connerj93) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@peyotecult, The people won’t just revolt because they are oppressed, simply because there is nothing to compare it to inherently creating a population that does not realize it is oppressed. The generations that make up the citizens of this country have never experienced it, and our country has not experienced it since the revolution in 1775; The idea of liberty has been washed down, even though it is the most profound truth in life. I don’t believe that people are afraid to admit anything, they see what’s going on if they have half a brain, I believe they sit back and do nothing willingly. “The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” as Edmund Burke told us, and that is exactly what most people are doing. It’s correct to think that any violent revolution will fail against this regime, I mean just look at what people would face fighting against it. . . it’d be massacre. What we could do to begin, is the whole civil disobedience concept that Gandhi lead with a passion. The issue is most definitely ignorance of the population, or the lethargic outlook on participation in our political society. From pre-school to high school, we were all conditioned not to question our government, to trust it, and to follow it (remember standing up for the pledge of allegiance even though you had no idea what it meant?) The public school system dampens critical thinking and creative intuition about the world and how to inherently question and think about things in different perspectives.

I’ve traveled across the world and talked to many, many different people, many of which truly believe that the United States is the most powerful, glorious, and prosperous country in the world. However, there are the others who see past the deception of the media and realize that, yes, Americans are incredibly ignorant.

The best we all can do against the ‘shadow of deception’, is to spread the ideas and get involved. Not just getting involved in vigilante, ‘V for vendetta’ shit, but getting involved in educating other individuals so they understand fully what is exactly going on. And also to teach those people to think more critically and open eyes not to the truth but to the direction that they may find their own truth about their world.

There is tremendous strength in a collective conscious effort against any false truth or idea, and even institutions.

Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@peyotecult, “What can we really do against tyranny?” Not fear it, simple. Anyone who fears tyranny deserves to be oppressed, anyone who doesn’t fear it never can be oppressed, no matter how you subdue them.
Freedom and control are illusions that only exist conceptually and principley, you can acheive both chained up in the deepest dungeon.

owenkellogg (34) (@owenkellogg) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

You MUST read this. “Discourse on Voluntary Servitude” by Étienne de La Boétie in the 15th century.


It changed my life. I used to yearn for the day when enough Americans get fed up, form militias and “take back” their government. But the question is: What do we replace the current government with? The reality is, with the current mindset of most Americans, we would end up with something worse. People may talk about “freedom” but most ENJOY their servitude to the almighty state. They think the government is “magic” and can give them something for nothing. I’ve observed this mentality on both the right (conservatives) and left (liberals).

H.L. Mencken said it well: “The fact is that the average man’s love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty — and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies.”

Anyway, back to Étienne de La Boétie. He basically said that in order to be free, you have to do NOTHING. Don’t obey. Don’t follow the laws, dictates and decrees if they don’t agree with logic, reason and basic ethics.

“…From all these indignities, such as the very beasts of the field would not endure, you can deliver yourselves if you try, not by taking action, but merely by willing to be free. Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.”

Check it out. You won’t be disappointed.

a Lotus Blossoms. (140) (@ancientmystic) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

the solution depends on the problem. what do you feel is the root issue, or what is causing you to feel the need for action?

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