What happened to them?

Josh (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 3 months ago

This is something that struck me as really weird. Something I wouldn’t normally think of, but as I was reading another persons post it hit me.

What ever happened to the individuals that contemplated suicide? I have read posts from people that were talking about these actions. Anyone care to share their story? Who asked for help on this site and ended up better off because of it? Who here was talked off the edge. I feel this is something positive if this site has saved people.

October 19, 2013 at 7:38 pm
Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Anyone care to weigh in?

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Ok last chance before I assume we weren’t able to help anyone that really needed it. Does anyone care what happened or are we all just here to serve our ego? Here to add our “2 cents” to every discussion topic. I’m guilty of it myself and can admit it.

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Glenn Edessa (382) (@edessa) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

If that’s true, and people here were helped out of their desperation, then it needs celebrating. What an awesome thing to happen.

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Man of the Future (108) (@Man-of-the-Future) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, I thought about a similar thing, like if someone died on this sight we’d never know it

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Emma (193) (@emmaclaire) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

I’ve never contemplated suicide but countless HEthens have helped me when I’ve been down.

Also posting this to bump the thread. I’m interested too.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@edessa, I know it have seen countless posts about people feeling down and out. Some have gone far as contemplating suicide. I’m hoping someone sees this that has been there.


@man-of-the-future
, exactly. And some of us have built relationships with each other. I hope nobody has gone through with suicide but you’re right we won’t know.


@emmaclaire
, I’m glad to hear HEthens have helped you through hard times. I’m hoping others can say the same. I know I have grown intellectually and spiritually because of this site Nd personally got great advice on personal matters as well.

Thanks for commenting. Bless!

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, There is nothing anyone can really do to stop other people from killing themselves. It is not a case of there being a philosophical solution to snap someone out of it. It really comes down to that person; They will either attempt or they wont, they will either succeed or fail, they will either deliberately fail or accidentally fail.

A person will only know how serious they are at that moment, at that moment they will either decide permanently that they do or do not want to die, if they don’t they will not try again, if they do they will make it happen one way or another.

One thing about this site is it is supposed to empower each of us to take charge of the direction of our own lives, to make us embrace the responsibility of our own learning, not demand we make others learn. If that is why a person is here, to make others learn, then they are here for the wrong reason.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@trek79, I cant say I disagree that in the end its up to that person whether or not they want to attempt suicide or not. But at the same time, maybe someone had something extremely touching to say and it made that person realize life isnt so terrible.

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Kumar (0) (@apkapk) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

How can one appreciate happiness if they haven’t felt sad at one point?

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, There are no shortages of touching stories, no shortage of beauty in life, it is each our own eye that decides what to see. Do people need to be spoken to directly to acknowledge these things or can they just decide that it is there for them, without a name tag?

Ego is a bullshit word; on one hand ego is when we believe the world revolves around us, on the other hand ego is being disappointed that it doesn’t. Beauty is always an option, it is there specifically for you, how much more pampering does an ego need?

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Viner Cent (50) (@Viner-Cent) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@reinvented2012 I have been helped imensely on this site, and thats why I stay here, to help people the way they have helped me. By the mass of stuff happening here I guess we have kept some people from duicide, we may have not with others. I had thoughts of it a long time ago (actually I just realise it was only 3-4 years ago), but I learned to enjoy life again, first through a new friend (soul sister) and then at this place.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@apkapk, I agree we all have to feel sadness at some point, were not immune to it. The goal I believe should be to get out of that state as soon as possible so that you are able to feel happy again.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@trek79, I think that some people do need to be spoken to in order to realize where they are isnt healthy, or to help them realize things get better. I know that personal mastery, or being able to help yourself is a great gift, but not everyone is able to. Some people need external support in order to get them to the point where they can pull themselves out. Reach out the hand for them to grab on to put dont pull, just provide them something to grab on to.

Would it also be ego if you were relieved to know the world doesnt revolve around you?

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@viner-cent, Thanks for sharing. I am glad to hear this community was able to help you. of course nothing could be better than someone who is physically there as well as emotionally, such as your “soul sister”. Bless!

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, I’m a bit trepid about depending on internet strangers as that comforting hand, but I see your point.

And yes, I would say being relieved the world doesn’t revolve around you is ego, for the fact the ego seeks the greatest comfort, and throws the greatest tantrum when not met, but giving the ego all it wants can be dangerous in itself.

But I would say that the world revolving around you or not, that is subjective, it can be valid to believe it does, such as my example of saying “Beauty is there specifically for you”

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@trek79, Yes I am not saying someone should be depending on this site for anything, but merely using it as a tool for whatever they seek.

I see what youre saying now, basically “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”. So do you think we need to completely dissolve ego or do you think that it can serve us to feed it sometimes as long as it is not completely running our lives?

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, In other posts you may see me talking about conceptual attachments, I believe ego and these attachments are basically the same thing. They are tools, as you say they should not run us but are there for us to employ constructively. A lot of it comes down to being aware of exactly what they are and applying discipline over how they may affect our behaviour.

I don’t know if it can be dissolved, I think that is what Buddhist monks strive their entire lives to accomplish, and few succeed, not sure if any succeed, but they try. But I think it is far more practical just to be aware and use discipline.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@trek79, I think that is what has been getting me in trouble with myself, thinking that ego is just dissolved or that it is easy or even possible. I tend to think I am not acting on ego, then I look back and I was.

I havent been meditating like I used to and I think that has had a negative effect on me, but at the same time I dont want to force it. I was raised catholic, but recently (over the past 2 years) I have questioned that religion a lot in because of the many contradictions it has within itself. I am sure that all other religions do as well, but I feel I need to study Buddhism, not as in become a monk but just educate myself on it because it seems to suit my morals, values, and lifestyle best. Im not even sure why I feel the need to follow or believe in any religion or spirituality, but I have a deep yearning for something more in terms of spirituality and I dont know how to satisfy that craving. Hopefully that makes sense.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, I tend to believe that contradictions, like that people find in religion, are just another manifestation of ego, on one hand we see things that do not rationally make sense to us, but in the broader spectrum of universal awareness you can see the infinity of reality, infinity is a contradiction itself, a paradox, but quantum physics theoretically supports it.

When the very foundations of the universe are paradoxical, it makes you question all the other perceived contradictions you have encountered in your journeys. I think it really comes down to what you decide is relevant, I say “God is the line between the relevant and the irrelevant” it is a hard thing to draw that line with a reasonable objectivity, but in principle I believe that whatever causes you to thirst for knowledge, without being anchored down to any of it, and whatever causes you to thirst for the best balance in not harming yourself or others, this is generally a nice piece of insight to start with.

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