What if another animal developed the human brain?

James (@ilooklikeawaterbottle) 9 years, 7 months ago

Why did primates brain develop and evolve the way it did? Why not another animal?

Imagine if whales had brains and limbs similar to humans, and were maybe our size? The current world underwater? It would be tough for us to explore the land.

Why not underwater?

June 19, 2012 at 10:50 pm
James (100) (@ilooklikeawaterbottle) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

I guess limbs similar to ours are just not efficient underwater

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Zeratul (34) (@kevingutierrez) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@ilooklikeawaterbottle, Well is possible that other species have the same self awareness as ours, but they smart enough to stay the hell away from us. Lol

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

Were not 100% sure why humans developed the way they did and so quickly. Our brains doubled in capacity randomly. Here’s a cool theory on it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUTgPOUdcLE&feature=related

Dolphins are also incredibly smart, they just don’t have thumbs. Thumbs do a lot bro, it’s not just all the brain.

Also, apparently our brains might have reached its full capacity. In fact, our brains are shrinking due to the way we are living, the way we have domesticated ourselves.

What’s also crazy to think about is that we used to be water and something must have happened to make us NEED to leave…well…what is our next water? Our bodies, perhaps? Maybe one day we will leave our bodies and become one with the universe, or downloaded into the internet…who knows.

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@blankey, Pretty much

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Anonymous (170) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@ilooklikeawaterbottle, for sometime I’ve thought that humanity will one day have the technology to bestow intelligence on another species. The species I would chose would be raccoons, and octopus. So that way we won’t have to discover or be discovered by intelligence, we can just create it.

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Doppelgaenger (16) (@doppelgaenger) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

It hasn’t actually been disproven that whales and especially dolphins don’t possess intelligence, it just so happens that they look like fish instead of monkeys and the only common ground we have is the ability to make sounds. We might actually find some day that the dolphins have been talking to eachother all along, with a real language even if it’s only primitive. I sincerely hope it’s the case and that it happens soon so fucking humans will stop thinking they’re the goddamn center of the universe and that they’re so special.

Intelligent whales would be unable to explore the land, they don’t even have any way to manipulate their environment. Being a good swimmer is a lot more important that finding a way to keep their skin moist when they get out of the water onto land they can’t walk on anyway, therefore their limbs evolved away from being of any manipulative use.

@ilooklikeawaterbottle, there is actually a few documentaries out there that tackle exactly why primates evolved the way they did.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

Seriously? No one knows how your existence was built mostly by fluids, developed your bone structure so it could scientifically carry it for you to exist? It’s what you would call an expansion of the bone structure.

Now, the title of this topic and the responses to it, just prove that human nature is the same as it was 10 000 years ago. Science.

Whatever you’re thinking, you get born and you have no other genetic code that could explain to you the same thing that happened 10 000 years ago. Human intelligence is the same. The stupidity comes from your own pathetic self-importance.

Gosh, and I was wondering why people think I’m an asshole. @imhotep, you are a fucking idiot.

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Alicia Lee (146) (@aliwine) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

I think someday something else will have it, not by our hand though. It was probably a genetic defect at first, just one that worked to our benefit.

Take blue eyes for an example- they were a genetic defect that started with one person. Now ponder upon how many people in the world have blue eyes!! They are all way down the line related ;) Lots of long line incest going on.

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Anonymous (170) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@beyond, hahaha, why that?

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@imhotep, I made you laugh. Success. :)

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Anonymous (170) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@beyond, dude I always laugh when you post. I happen to think that your dumbass, has a lot of potential.

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Kevin (536) (@placid) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@aliwine, But blue eyes aren’t even beneficial (aesthetically perhaps). If anything, blue eyes are at a disadvantage.

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yoinkie (1,498)C (@yoinkie) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@blankey, everything you said= fucking awesome. We need to smoke together sometime bro.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@yoinkie, haha word. Possibly at this little commune Jordan is creating?

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@imhotep, There’s always a motherfucker that says something like that. :) Potential for what? Being specific with what you say could have some credibility, but talking with abstract bullshit is just what you love to do as it seems. You know, speaking to have any relevance. What I mean by “motherfucker” is that your opinions are not just useless, but a waste of fucking time. And I wonder why do you even reply when you have absolutely nothing constructive to share. We all observe. I wanted to say that I don’t see any potential in your dumbass, but I decided to be more specific. Take notes.

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Sean D Stevens (155) (@thelaughingfool) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

The way I see it, our distant ancestors developed bigger brains because it was the only advantage we could develop quickly. We were probably stronger back then than we are now, but we couldn’t compete in terms of strength and weaponry to our neighbors the mastodon and the saber tooth tiger. Originally, our biggest accomplishment was figuring out that by smashing the bones of animals killed by other predators, we could get at the protein rich marrow. That was a huge leap forward at the time. Somehow, if another species has everything it needs in terms of advantages, I don’t see why they would need to develop a bigger brain. After all (as I’ve pointed out before), that bigger brain, for all the good it does us, it also a burden on our species. To develop it, you would not only need the right conditions for evolution, but you would also need to make a serious nutritional investment to developing it.

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Adam Smith (113) (@adamsmith) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

I wanna hang out with a big group of HEthens. Most of the people who I interact with on a daily basis are dumb :(

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Andrew A. (201) (@biga69) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@beyond, smh so much hate :(

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Andrew A. (201) (@biga69) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@thelaughingfool, I heard that it was a combination of different proteins being available to us through cooking the meat and also constant consumption of psylocibin mushrooms.

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Sean D Stevens (155) (@thelaughingfool) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@biga69, I don’t think we developed fire until much later. As to the mushrooms, I don’t see how eating them after being born will effect your genes to develop larger brains.

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Anonymous (170) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@beyond, It doesn’t surprise me that you feel that way, its the nature of the Belle Curve (google it, math reference). My thoughts are as unintelligible to you, as a humans are to a bonobo. But like a human studying a bonobo, I see a glimmer of outside the box thinking in you, if you ever allowed your inferiority complex motivate you positively, than you could probably arrive at some half decent conclusions. My advice, question everything (I know you don’t have a problem with that), including yourself.

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Anonymous (170) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@beyond, perhaps I am patronizing. For that I apologize.

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Andrew A. (201) (@biga69) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@thelaughingfool, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZbxRzWYLc

Yes I know it’s Terence McKenna and he is kinda crazy but it makes sense, and I don’t remember where I heard the fire theory from, just a random memory I had.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@imhotep, Interesting observations, but saying that I have an inferiority complex and others thinking that I have an illusive superiority is just the thing that makes me say to you that you really are full of shit. I mean, I can analyze myself better than you. Good advice though. :) It seems like you were researching about yourself and you just share something. :) Well… thanks for sharing.

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