What is your grounding force?

 Misty (@mistydawnn)6 years, 11 months ago

After years of repressing any spiritual gifts I was born with I’ve finally opened up and decided to try to understand my experiences instead of hiding with them. I have a gift for sensing spirits, which is a wonderful thing once you let go of the fear.
When I first started on this journey my instinct was to go full force, to free myself of anything holding me back spiritually and be open to whatever comes my way.
Then I realized my dilemma of being married to a man with no interest in spiritual matters. He’s very down to earth, hard working, and morally strong. I thought he was holding me back.
But recent dreams and encounters have shown me that I need him as a grounding force. He keeps me from getting lost in a world I don’t fully understand.
So I’m curious what is your grounding force? And do you feel you need one?

January 30, 2014 at 11:19 am
Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

my grounding force is listening to other people’s ideas and realizing that there are innumerable perspectives out there.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

Spirituality, in and of itself, is just another sticking point. It’s a great stepping stone at first, but it will just stifle your spirit and intelligence in the long run.
You don’t know what you don’t know.

Humans are great at thinking they understand things when they really don’t. It’s a blessing and a curse, mostly a curse these days.
The less you believe, the more you see and understand.

My grounding point is nature. It’s a constant, I know that it will always be there, and no matter what I do or how well I do it I will always be constrained by its basic laws just like everyone and everything else.

No, I don’t really need a grounding point. Nobody does, really.
You can let your mind run free without your control, it will still be constrained due to the structure of your brain and the laws of nature.

You don’t know what you don’t know. The more you believe, the less you see and understand.

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Misty (6) (@mistydawnn) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

Spirituality is part of nature, it’s not something I choose to believe in, it’s something that is there and I need to learn to accept. I know I’ll never understand it, and that’s ok.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

I repeat: The more you believe, the less you see and understand.

You know how many people have claimed that something is “something and it’s there and I need to learn to accept” and such about things that aren’t real? Countless…

You don’t know what you don’t know.
The more you believe, the more you close your mind.

Spirituality is just a concept, an attempt to put a face on something that is intangible… and as such it always leads to folly and delusion.
Take it with a grain of salt. Actually, the whole damn salt shaker is a much better idea.

Recognising a dealy held belief for what it really is, a belief, is not very easy… but only the fool chooses ease over growth and truth.

Every belief is a sticking point and keeps you from the truth. No matter what belief it is, it is still just that… a belief. A pitfall for the mind.

To liberate and strengthen your spirit, you must vanquish the projections that keep it shackled… and that is probably the biggest challenge in the world since you’re playing for both sides.

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Misty (6) (@mistydawnn) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

Believing in a spirit is no different than believing that tree over there exists, it’s just there. There’s no way around it.
Where do you draw the line between what is tangible and what isn’t?

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

See, that’s where you’re mistaken.
Many things can seem real though they’re not, belief makes it so.

Who believes in trees? That’s odd and pointless, the tree doesn’t give a dong if people believe in it, it doesn’t change anything. The tree is still there, doing its thing.

If spirits are a thing, then the same thing applies there. Belief wouldn’t change jack.
But then again, spirits are merely concepts made by human minds.

Drawing a line between what’s tangible and what’s intangible… that’s not for us to do, the universe has already drawn that line and there’s nothing to be done about it… nor is there any need or reason to try.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

I believe a bunch of things, I am aware of a bunch of things, but I know I also have to be aware of other people. Most of the things I never discuss with people I physically interact with, I discuss it in forums like this as an outlet.

You have to keep in mind what is relevant, not just to you, being a spiritual person is not just about your needs and your truth, but knowing people are not the same, nor do they have to be, in fact diversity is a beautiful thing because different perspectives, if you respect them or not, bring different strengths to the table and the more diversity in strengths is a benefit, although people often get lost in arguing about those differences.

I say truth is relative; it depends on how practical its application is and its consequences as to if it has value. I say “God is the line between the relevant and the irrelevant” and when I share what I know or believe it is very much in accordance to what I see as relevant, the importance of my argument always depends on that. So people get into heated debates about topics that are really inconsequential, and people alienate others when they don’t have to. Some people get by just fine without certain things being told to them, or they would at least prefer not to be told. That is tricky to know, easier to respect.

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Joel Nickel (29) (@joelnickel) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

My grounding force is the knowledge that I am only one entity subjectively experiencing reality and can only ever experience through my own lens and that others have their own and different, and no less valid, experiences.

sonder

noun./ – the realization that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own—populated with their own ambitions, friends, routines, worries and inherited craziness—an epic story that continues invisibly around you like an anthill sprawling deep underground, with elaborate passageways to thousands of other lives that you’ll never know existed, in which you might appear only once, as an extra sipping coffee in the background, as a blur of traffic passing on the highway, as a lighted window at dusk.

https://soundcloud.com/greyspade/flux

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Misty (6) (@mistydawnn) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

Fantastic answer thank you!
and I love learning new words.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

It’s funny how we can always think that we know the perception of another person
and feel right when we call it all wrong.

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Krest (3) (@Krest) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

Hatred. Hatred gives me hope. It gives me sorrow. It makes me see. It gives me resolve. Hatred anchors me so that my dreams don’t corrupt my reason.

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Flynnstone (813) (@flynnstone) 6 years, 11 months ago ago

I think I need one–I get lost in my head sometimes, too caught up in my own perspective. I would say my grounding force is being with people in the present moment, and learning of their perspective. That I’m not the center of everything, and that my reality is no more or less true than theirs.

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