What makes humans so blind?

Kayla (@kayla147258) 8 years, 10 months ago

Religions have been around forever. A lot of them are gone now, and labeled as mythology. But, back in those days, they actually believed in the god of the sun and the god of the ocean, etc. and anyone who didn’t believe was crazy. The cycle repeats over and over, and one day hundreds of years from now Christianity and other religions today are going to be labeled as mythology and there will be new religions.

Why can’t people see that history repeats itself? There has got to be a point where someone wakes up and is like, “wait, what?”Why do we constantly need religion?

January 31, 2013 at 7:02 pm
Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, It sounds like you have no idea what Mythology actually is really. I don’t think you would say those things about religion if you did. Have you ever tried to pay attention more to why we all think about these concepts, regardless of faith? You, right now. You’re contemplating the same concepts you are disagreeing with.

I disliked religion strongly when I was younger, because it didn’t agree with my logic. Then I learned more, and believed in god. Then I learned more, and saw good in every single religion. Then I learned more, and I don’t believe, or not believe in god. I just recognize the concept.

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Kayla (68) (@kayla147258) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@hollowinfinity, Maybe I don’t, I am still learning lol

“It sounds like you have no idea what Mythology actually is really. I don’t think you would say those things about religion if you did”

What do you mean by that?

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Kforkonner (59) (@kwelch5528) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@hollowinfinity, @kayla147258,

Kayla I think you got your point out to where people could understand it!

I’ve thought about it a lot. I heard on this podcast I was listening to, it talked about mediaeval times, the idea about witch craft. It estimated that around 2,000 woman died just because they very strongly believed that these woman were witches. Now hundreds of years later we realize that their is no such thing as witches, never was or will be.

Don’t you think in a couple years science will prove somethings wrong about religion, it has before, quite a bit actually. But religion just modifies itself to make it sound like it could still work. Just because it sounds right doesn’t mean it is. Sadly people would rather hear a reassuring lie than a frightening truth.

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, I didnt make it to sound mean if came off that way!
“Many interesting theories and conjectures have been put forth — especially in the last 150 years — by various students of mythology as to what all this storytelling is about and why virtually every known culture in the world has generated its own system of myths and legends — most sharing a number of themes and ideas which appear to be nearly universal and common to all peoples everywhere, yet each also with countless and intriguing features unique and specific to itself.”

Have you noticed, just watching tv or movies or something, that most every story has a central plot that they share in common? This changes a little bit, and I believe that is how genres were created. The fact is, no matter where you are in the world, you have these concepts that seem to have just ‘been’ there. You don’t need another person to make you question god, have a concept of perfect, or anything like that. Take love for example. Its a concept. We all perceive and think about it differently, but each person in the world could call it love, or its language’s equal.

To me its almost like when you listen to music. Some songs, or patterns can give you that great ecstasy feeling down your spine. Music can literally do something, or alter your brain. I believe its that same part of us, that creates these concepts that everyone shares. Religion to me, is our honest attempt at describing this world of symbols and thoughts and feelings that we have no way to logically think about.

Look up some Joseph Campbell.

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winslow (85) (@winslow) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@hollowinfinity, @kayla147258, Yeah, lets hear about mythology.

I dont think religion makes people blind it just gives them a reason to live and be better people. Most everyone wants to be a good person except for crooks. I think what makes people blind is this idea that we have to grow up get a good job and make money or we wont be a success. I will be successful If Im happy, and I think that out of that happiness comes success. Its the passion that drives. Its right about when you let the pressures of responsibilities in that you lose track of what is really you.

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Kayla (68) (@kayla147258) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@hollowinfinity, Ok I think I see what you’re saying now. :)

@winslow, of course some parts of religion don’t make people blind, there are good parts to it. But at the same time, there’s so much greed and corruption in religion it’s not even funny. Most people live their lives in fear of going to hell for something as simple as not believing.

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winslow (85) (@winslow) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@hollowinfinity, But the prophets were real. Religions blossomed out of their teachings.. But I dont think that they were properly understood. There were also religions before our prophets coming that must have come from other prophets even longer ago than that. But they didnt know everything coming out of the womb. It took time to figure things out..

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, “But at the same time, there’s so much greed and corruption in religion it’s not even funny.” Are we still talking about religion, or just natural tendencies of people themselves? Are we talking about their beliefs? Or their fears? Are we talking about the validity in an idea, or ways it could fail?

Think about government. There is no true government system in existence. Anarchy, Democracy, Communism..etc. They are all ideals. A concept or idea, that would completely work if it could actually manifest that way. We are imperfect though, so when we execute, things come out differently. Things don’t work that way. Could it be that religion is similar? The ideas are golden, but when people act on it..it turns out differently?

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Ben (148) (@cognizantelephant) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, The reason why people don’t see how history repeats itself is because..

“History is written by the victors.” -Winston Churchill

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@winslow, “But the prophets were real.” – See thats the issue! They weren’t prophets..they just carried the idea, extended the thought. It’s like an idea my dad had. If Einstein didn’t discover relativity theory, then someone else would’ve soon after, because all the information was there, it just had to be seized.

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winslow (85) (@winslow) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, I know what youre talking about. But the corruption is in the highest levels of religion and when we talk about humans being blind we mean the majority which is people who go to church and honestly believe in what they are told. The corruptors are obviously not blind, they just have the wrong intentions. Hell could be real, but it wouldnt be a bunch of flames you burn in. It would be more like a terrible feeling for infinity and never being able to come back to the status we are at now. This is just my opinion though and its only real to me.

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winslow (85) (@winslow) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@hollowinfinity, Yeah I agree that they arent prophets in that they were sent to show us but they were special. I just call them prophets because that is what people understand the group of people im talking about as.

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winslow (85) (@winslow) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I agree that they are just people who spoke up in their very clear and strong beliefs. @hollowinfinity, Your dad seems cool..

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Kayla (68) (@kayla147258) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@hollowinfinity, “Are we still talking about religion, or just natural tendencies of people themselves? Are we talking about their beliefs? Or their fears? Are we talking about the validity in an idea, or ways it could fail?”

Actually, you have a very good point there. I guess I always affiliated religion with the way people acted with it, if that makes any sense. I’m a cashier and let me tell you, Sundays are our worst days. Not because we’re busy, but because church people are the rudest people. At least in this town they are. I suppose I have been blaming the wrong thing-religion-instead of just people’s tendencies.

@cognizantelephant, good quote. :)

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Kayla (68) (@kayla147258) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@winslow, Yeah, corruption and blindness is what pisses me off most about religion. But, I guess people in power will take advantage of those who are gullible.

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WarAgainstReality (4) (@clockworkz21) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

humans are in nature irrational (proposing something un-natural in origin affected our being early on so we can cognitively process) and are skeptical of new ideas in which would progress our society. to progress as many rather than one is needed. a run-off of government is religion as corrupt as they are to control huge population their logic is flawed and can be pointed out rather easily. alot of people don’t notice because they dont question things and would rather survive in unquestioning contentment than live a fulfilled life.. what is that anyways? finding love and prospering (monetary wise while under the peril of billions?) what other way can people progress and prosper?

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winslow (85) (@winslow) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kayla147258, Yeah and its just like money equals power. Which is bs it should be kindness is power or something like that. We could all just work together on what needs to be done and have aspirations and we wouldnt need money. But there would always be people who did nothing and expect something in return.

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