Some believe that death will lead on to new life in a place of heaven or hell, some say that you will just be born as another person or another object, some say that it is nothing after death and you just die. I believe that when you die you become something of a spiritual form and that you force and guide others towards the path that you choose them to take. I believe its happening to me now and that we don’t have any free will at all and were just being controlled like puppets by our ancestors. but I guess well never know until we actually die.
This question is based on the assumption that there is a “you” capable of dying.
There is not.
Your physical body will deteriorate, but the consciousness your brain tapped into while your body was alive is still there. Your body is no longer of use – but that’s not you.
“You” don’t die.
@charliecraft, The way I see it is the universe is in a constant state of change; simple energy basically evolves into matter, but may break back down into energy, matter evolves into life but will break back down into matter although it propagates by reproduction to continue life.
Life evolves into sentience; the thinking mind, the development and understanding of conceptual interpretations of the universe, ranging from science to theory, the verified and the belief, practical engineering to artistic expression and psychological comforts or balances.
The ideas we develop about what happens after death is really a psychological issue; we would either like knowledge or comfort one way or another, likely driven by an inherent fear of mortality, self preservation is a natural instinct hardwired into our DNA, but the fact we can comprehend the concept of mortality means we are stuck in this limbo of self-preservation versus the apparently inevitable, so we look for a loophole in that destiny.
As life-forms we will revert back to ordinary matter, but is there something about us that can survive that process? Not as it relates to the chemical memory of the brain, but maybe in a sense of consciousness that transcends matter and energy. So if that essence has something like memory or if it is just who you are at your base level, the slate that is cleaned and where your experiences build on in past, present and future incarnations?
This is a matter of faith or personal psychological comfort.
People who can acually lift the veil and see first-hand about it all are never taken seriously or believed when they speak of it. Those of us who can’t go there, well… we can go on with all our speculations and beliefs about it. The thing about belief is that we can tell ourselves whatever we feel like, whether it is an acuallity or not.
There is alot already written on what may or my not happen after death, so there is no need for another saps 2 cents that will only go disreguarded.
But I will put in my 1 cent by saying that most of us are so narrow/closed minded, that this veil continues to surround us even after we shed our bodies. It is not a bad thing though as it is a form of protection to a consciousness that just is’nt ready for the other 99.9% of it’s own existence.
@vovinawol, Well said. The knowing is out there for anyone interested enough to look for it.Protecting the conscious or other mental states may certainly be something to to consider. It might just be that It’s like any other high level course that one takes while attending university, in that it requires prerequisite courses, There’s no point in teaching calculus to someone who hasn’t learned algebra. There may also be certain lessons to learn about life and or death before we are ready to understand life after death. It could also have something to do with ones level of maturity, intellectual, psychological, and emotional, one or all. Then again, the only requirement might be a persons desire or “need to Know” that leads them to discovery. It’s likely a combination of all these things. What seems clear is that it’s highly personalized for each individual. In the meantime, that knowledge remains camouflaged in myths.
I imagine it’s like a light switch, one moment you are alive and sentient, then flick! you’re gone. Some people cannot bear the thought of nothingness after death but for me eternal afterlife sounds so much scarier. I remember when I was about 5 or 6 I would sit in my room and try and wrap my mind around the concept of eternity. (at the time I was told I was going to the christian heaven when I died) I remember I would knock on my parents bedroom door so scared of death I was crying. Not scared of of the possibility of nothingness, hell, or anything like that, but instead I was scared of heaven. For some reason the concept of eternity was and is a terrifying concept for me. My parents would just reply “Well if you are going to spend eternity anywhere, Heaven is the place to be” That never made me feel better.
“I believe its happening to me now and that we don’t have any free will at all and were just being controlled like puppets by our ancestors.”
Nah man, they’re all at this sick ass party I planned for them and they’re letting you do you.
well considering steve jobs last words were “oh wow”,
im guessing whatever is next, has an oh wow factor to it.
unicorns? men with vaginas? who knows man, we just gotta wait and see
of course theres the couple minutes of DMT, but maybe theres something more
@superpooper, I don’t quite understand how people use the “oh wow” moment of Steve Jobs as solid evidence for life after death. I mean I obviously understand how his words might be interpreted as amazement while he crosses to another realm, but there is already a biological explanation for why people have strange experiences upon death/near death. We know that chemicals are released in the brain upon death that create a sense of overwhelming euphoria. Maybe Steve Jobs was exclaiming Oh wow because he knew he was dying yet strangely suddenly overwhelmed with a sense of euphoria and well being? Plus there is evidence that DMT (the most powerful hallucinogen known to man) is released in massive quantities upon death… so theres also that.
@i4cim2b, I think one the the main reasons that mystery schools have us take a vow of silence on those matters is because it’s pretty much a waste to explain some things that are purly personal. It will always come from the inside. It also takes most seekers more years of study, research, and experiment, than it takes to be a doctor or rocket scientist. Too many of us think it is given to us with no work involved and no tests to take. Your reply to my comment hits the nail on the head quite well : )