Who Else Has Tried This & That Religious or Philosophical System, & Rejected It?

Anonymous (@) 8 years, 10 months ago

My Life Example: was raised Christian, have studied much over many years, tried some on for size, gotten close to Zen Buddhism(even to the point of almost formally taking the refuges) – BUT – just cannot accept “myself” as a ‘this’ or ‘that’. To do so would not be freedom, and ultimately we are freedom. We are totally free, free, free: born unbound, unattached, and untethered to anything. The beginning of our problems, it seems, is when we begin pre-attachment by arising of cravings and desires. And I “understand” how that all works, in fact buddhist philosophy explains it, in their vein, quite well. Not looking for an explanation of the process. Looking for any who are kindred in the realization that living unemcumbered IS the pure existence?

February 3, 2013 at 2:46 pm
Nick (554) (@splashartist) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@rickyferdon, YES! Although, these teachings have good tools to point to the unpointable which I like to use from time to time :)

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E.C.F. Doyle (346) (@chekovchameleon) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@rickyferdon, Irish catholic before birth, Hardcore atheist for a long time, now I don’t know what I am; human, I guess. Maybe an agnostic, leaning more towards the idea there is no god, but trying to keep an open mind. I reject religion as I don’t believe that such vast groups of people can believe the same thing, and most of the time they don’t. I like to gather knowledge on all philosophies and see which works for me. If I have learned one thing in my life it is that there is no right or wrong.

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Elijah (3) (@elijahosprey) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I was raised with a mix of Christian and traditional Native American, through my young life I have come to understand that religion has it flaws, as proven again and again in history. I believe that the focus should be on the spiritual aspect of one’s life/connection to “God” and not a religious close minded approach. There is no denying there is some omnipresent being influencing our lives, whether directly or indirectly, and I believe people try too hard to break it down and then contain it with religious doctrine which has some aspects that are right as well as some that are wrong, then people argue over them. The Creek Cherokee side of me has taught me of the oneness of everything, whether it be religions, races, or any aspect of life we are all connected in this beautiful mess So what I am saying is just be happy with your spiritual connection with whatever name you want to give this omnipresent being. There are too many coincidences to be coincidental, and if you over think it, it will drive you mad.

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seraphina (3) (@sarahpine100) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@elijahosprey That last part was just beautiful. :)

I was raised Christian, abandoned it when I went to college, became an Atheist, then an Agnostic. And now, while I am still agnostic, I align myself mostly with Buddhist philosophy.

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Elijah (3) (@elijahosprey) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@sarahpine100, (: I find myself agreeing with Buddhist philosophy over and over again. There is much truth in their teachings. Also I believe they encourage children to not just accept Buddhism, but to find what works for them, which I think is pretty awesome haha

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seraphina (3) (@sarahpine100) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@elijahosprey I so agree. After the childhood of indoctrination in a Christian house, where I was never exposed to anything that was not Christian, I think its refreshing to find a group of people that don’t believe they are inerrant.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@rickyferdon, No, I don’t reject anything, I file it away according to relevance. What you call rejecting I call marking as irrelevant but the knowledge remains just in case I find knew knowledge that compliments it back toward some practical use.
But I have what I call vital knowledge as a foundation and no matter how much information I process I don’t lose sight of that. Basically you do your best, both in action and in seeking the best action, confidence in both what makes sense and the application that you arrive at, the key being collaboration.
Any knowledge I gather is supposed to assist in me finding the best actions, ones that improve quality of life and cause least harm both as largely as possible, the only prejudism is toward anything that hinders this effort. The ultimate end game I would say is an enjoyable life for myself and anyone I can help find it, with the catch being that such a life does not result in others being denied the same opportunity.
So it is a veritable minefield of obstacles in finding that and that is generally what we all want, our life to be enjoyed, I find it hard to understand how people get so side-tracked from this goal.

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Anonymous (46) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@rickyferdon, you are right to every extend, but realizing this and acting upon it is something completely different. The profile and identity is so completely induced in the system and the idea of owning, law and other concepts of religion it just cannot act upon freedom.

From the point of freedom you have the freedom to reject any form of obligation but as this present age goes, you have no anonymity or autonomous function to interact with the freedom you are suppose to have.

As long you are presented with the education and systematic approach of hierarchy you have no freedom to program your freedom upon your understanding in live…

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Kforkonner (59) (@kwelch5528) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@rickyferdon, I too was raised up in a Christian faith, pushed excessively by my parents to the point of a very negative effect. I have looked into the buddhism and find it fascinating, how they don’t really claim themselves as a religion, just a way to view is quite amazing! I don’t really consider myself buddhist or any specific religion. I don’t really try on planning to search for one because I find my standards and values are customized perfectly for me and so far I’ve been very happy. That’s my story.

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TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Eh, I was raised Christian, Catholic to be exact, but the more I see the world around the more I just don’t know. People do bad things all the time, and they don’t seem too worried about hell. And the idea that we’re all going to have some kind of magic afterlife where everything is great just seems way too convienient to be true. I think the only heaven that exists is being a kid, doing things you like, or retiring early.

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Thunderfeet (161) (@thunderfeet) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

It seems to me like religions are just flawed in general but not for the obvious reason. What I mean is every should be able to discover there on beliefs and ideas about life, god and the universe, we could call it the religion of you. Instead we have very structured religions where you are told do this and believe that or you’re not part of that religion.
If someone does some soul searching and they discover that one of the big religions is good for that and its what they actually believe that’s fine. But if your a child your going to be born into a family that has certain beliefs and you’re told that is the truth with out being able to discover for yourself until you get older. That just doesn’t make sense to me its just indoctrination on a different level.
I was raised as a christian and I attended a christian private school from Jr. Kindergarten to grade 8 but fairly early on I think around grade 5 I started to question what they we’re telling me. By grade 6 i was denouncing god at school to my friends but I didn’t have the courage to tell my mom.
Like I said early it felt like I didn’t have a choice and I was just told believe this or else, I didn’t get to decide for myself so I realized it had no relevance to me. Until recently I couldn’t care less about god or religion, but now I have some spirituality with my own Ideas and beliefs that are constantly changing because anythings possible. so it seems ridiculous that one religion is completely correct.

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