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 Jako (@JAKO34)6 years, 7 months ago

Lately, I’ve been contemplating the issue of drug use in an extreme form. Imagine we live in a society that decriminalized every drug because the government ruled it unjust to control what someone wants to do to their own body. Now, in this same society, your family member or extremely close friend gets strung out on heroin. It’s completely legal but do you have a moral obligation to try and help him? Essentially what I’m asking is do we have a right to determine how other people treat their body when it comes to drugs and, if so, how far does that power to determine stretch? Family? Friends? Everyone?

November 14, 2014 at 3:21 am
Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

Usually even if it’s used for recreational purposes the closest person’s opinion is considered an actual symptom.

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Rana (2) (@spacer24) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

I always believe that deep deep down everyone is so generally and entirely confused, about everything and on so many different levels..despite all those who scream a lot of things confidently and considering humans like me who believe in freedom as a nature of human spirit (difficult to talk about certainty when it comes to having faith in something like that, like freedom I mean)
you just need to consider the presence of this confusion in them, human relations are not based on ideas and ‘rights’ and even feelings, its a messed up thing I guess, if you’re so dear to someone and they’re watching you, they’ll be so confused about what to feel, think or do.. they don’t know if they should do or say something or not.. and when they do say something seemingly sure about it, believe me, they’re confused.
I know I’m not offering a clear response, but I’m just trying to make you more understanding of the whole thing.

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

Of course you should help. Heroin, for example, is a dark and scary addiction- regardless if it ever became legal. I mean, we don’t want to infringe upon people’s free will, but that’s part of my free will too. I will practice that, to help my friends and family, or anyone really..especially if I think they are in danger.

Even if pot is legal- and they are a hardcore smoker- like everyday- I wont tell them how to live their lives, but Ill certainly ask them about it. Ask them why they smoke everyday, just so in the very least, I relate and understand my friend a little better..but idk, maybe they smoked everyday because they were depressed or something, but no one ever asked?

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Jako (0) (@JAKO34) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

I understand what you’re saying and depression could be a reason for that extreme of an addiction but what if they truly believe that addiction is the best way to live their life. Do we still have grounds to try and “help” them?

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

On a small scale, we shouldnt tell people how to live their lives..but on a large scale, thinking about our DNA and evolution and future, maybe we should have somewhat of a say here. Ultimately our decisions now impact us collectively down the line.

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Jako (0) (@JAKO34) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

I like that. I think it all boils down to what our purpose is and we, most likely, will never be able to figure it out. So, it’s better to assume that we should keep fighting for a better human race rather than lay back and experience as much shallow euphoria as possible.

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Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

Society is way more focused on how to use therapy, drugs and “fixes” rather than what’s causing them, which just separates people from their problems and automatically makes them normal. To put it simply, the biggest stress factors in life are those people are most concerned about. In an ascending order what gives the most stress: school, work, love and the meaning of life, respectively. If you want real fix, change the flow of the way your own brain works.

No one was ever cured of depression with drugs. The real cure is activity – regularly generating energy to burn energy. Active creativity itself gives a person energy. If someone is doing heroin he’s going down a destructive path just like with every self-indulgent pleasure seeking, because this is not fixing a terminal pain, and if there is some kind of a psychological trauma a person should focus on the cause of it, not on the temporary mood changer. Who’s to say? Your own fucking body.

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Jako (0) (@JAKO34) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

Could you explain what you would say about an extremely intelligent person who rationally comes to the conclusion that the “self-indulgent pleasure seeking” path is the best one to go down? It’s not that “out-there” of a situation. Mitchell Heisman was a man who killed himself purely out of curiosity. He didn’t do it out of depression or anything like that but for intrinsic scientific purposes. So what about someone who, instead of concluding that maybe death holds more meaning, concludes that life is simply a brief existence in which we should all pack as much physical pleasure as possible? And this someone chooses to experience the heroin high because it provides the most pleasure out of anything in this world.

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Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

Except every intelligent person would know that the pleasure they pack also has a lethal withdrawal effect, which comes with the same package and will make them need pleasure desperately soon afterwards. A desperate conclusion with obvious lack of perspective is unintelligent. The consequences of not having a healthy perspective lead to pain and death. That’s an insult to humanity’s intellectual progress and evolution if you will, not extreme intelligence. Thank god for extremely dead morons that sacrificed themselves with their stupidity in the name of humanity, eh?

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Zayn (17) (@Apollo777) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

Its hard to say, being someone who has abused a mind altering substance and lived in environments where I lived with nothing but people who did the same, I know all too well what kind of negative affects it can have on a human being. It can even drive someone who is only destructive towards themselves to begin harming others, as well (depending on the drug.)

However, I do not believe in force and I believe institutions of government should not have the power to infringe upon the free will of indviduals. Given our current societal circumstances, balance seem to be the key to this complex dilemma.

A better question to ask is why do we feel the need to use drugs as a society?

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rewindeve (0) (@rewindeve) 6 years, 7 months ago ago

I think that love is the power. If someone is sick, you would like to help them, if doing something legal, even smoking cigarettes is making somebody unwell, you may try to stop them, I don’t think it is a moral issue as much as a common sense ideal.

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