Why are we so alone.

thePinkMyr (@thepinkmyr) 9 years, 6 months ago

Imaginary lines drawn upon the the idea of Earth divides;
Make-belief differences between races separates;
Illusory doctrines of creation and origin creates conflicts;
It’s a sincere hope of mine that ideologies like these pass.

What do you think separates us as human beings?
Remember, GLHF!

January 27, 2013 at 7:58 pm
Anonymous (119) (@) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

I feel as though we were born into this world alone and will one day die alone. It’s up to us; in the precious time that we have been gifted – to form relationships, generate love and care for others until it’s time for us to return Home.

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onelovechange (440) (@jakefloria) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@winslow yeah realistically it’s pretty sad but nothing you or anyone says will make me think we should just give up. It’s not just Tibet either, many places over the world suffer or are under oppression. The odds may be stacked against them but they may not be alone.
@kirnasser thats a nice perception but we are talking on a world scale, on humanity in general. Me, personally, am not quite alone. But in a world of OVER 7 Billion people, not even individuals are always happy. Many are lonely, don’t have friends or close family, live alone and die alone. It’s sad but it’s not everybody either! Many have friends or people with similarities but honestly it’s just from chance, that those are the circumstances given to them that they only know so very few people and like even fewer. But humankind as a whole are so divided, separated, not just from religion, politics, governments, borders, and cultures but from a variety of other aspects of interests, morality, media, geography, technology, and overall consciousness.
@ballsackturtles23 umm yeah…i’m not down for brainwashing anyone, especially with hallucinogenic drugs. That’s kinda messed up, though you were probably joking so it’s all good. And who’s to say who the “wrong hands” are or what’s good, what’s bad, what’s unethical, what’s evil? But I see what you’re saying. As for united as one tribe, it’s a lot different than a tribe with over 7 billion people haha. But I am all for tribal systems like the Native Americans, a kind of commmune that worked out pretty well, maybe with some tweaking and fixing.
@thepinkmyr dude i love how you put the religion thing to ballsackturtles

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onelovechange (440) (@jakefloria) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@secter7 That is an excellent point man! I didn’t really consider that but it’s got truth. I like how you put all that. The perspective/perception think is like @kirnasser but yeah also the thing about future generations learning I have thought about before.
I think that humankind can have an evolution/revolution of consciousness. Learn from mistakes, fix them, try again. Humans have sort of been on a trend of evolution of consciousness already. It uses to be absolute power with less freedoms and such but as time progressed, we become more open-minded and ethical so we open rights to women and african-americans, have more freedoms, and develop democracy and other good things. This is why I think Communism has potential because though it hasn’t worked yet, it also was corrupt. I think if there are problems with it you find solutions and try again, not give up. So maybe in the future, we will evolve a little more and change for the better. It may need to be kicked off with revolution, maybe not.

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onelovechange (440) (@jakefloria) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

I also consider our vast population growth as huge problem, starting with imperialism, conquering, growth, industrial revolutions, and urbanization and other things. Human population has exponentially grown insanely fast just within the past few hundred years and resources have been used up in the same way. But it’s almost impossible to unite so many people with so many conflicting beliefs and opinions. I think that the Earth/nature will balance itself out as it normally would. I think and kinda hope that there will be something like another plague or natural disaster or major threat like aliens or some shit to level out our size. Even that might unify humankind (have you seen Watchmen? It’s a great movie but one guy blows up a bunch of cities with alien power so that the countries that were enemies before, united against the new, non-human threat and it lasted). If our population was much smaller it would be easier to unify or be separate because people could more easily choose who with and where they want to live.

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winslow (85) (@winslow) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@jakefloria, Haha Im not against you man.. But its going to take something really different to free Tibet. At least they arent being killed like Syrians..

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onelovechange (440) (@jakefloria) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

michael @winslow yeah seriously. And i agree something different will be needed. Who knows? Maybe China will have a change of heart…hahaha

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SamIam (3) (@secter7) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@jakefloria I’d agree with you on that, we’ve slowly developed into a soceity where it’s no longer possible for one to rule many. Democracy was definitely a step in the right direction, but we need revisions on it. I’d say(in america) we have also become greatly hindered by such free market economy. When a business whose motives are profits has the ability to affect laws in the interest of profit vs. people we begin to see problems.
Revolution is a valid idea as a catalyst into societal evolution. Although I think it’s more of an aftereffect of a change in popular thought.
Population growth has drastically changed our lifestyle as well. We’ve exploded so rapidly because we could and haven’t been exactly conscientious of the aftermath. It poses problems in the future when things get a little too crowded… but there’s always space travel ;p. I think we’ve made a lot of progress in medicine and aliens aren’t popping up soon so sadly the only thing that would cut us down to size would be war.

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@thepinkmyr, it hasn’t been done the way I would do it.

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John (32) (@luzimzo) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@hulklol,

I just want to clarify that when you said

“It may also be a sub-product of this competition-like culture we have had in almost all the history of human beings”

I think you were referring to the beginning of civilization to the present. Because the first 95% of human history (actual fact) humans were living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle and did compete amongst each other (this is a generalization but valid for most cases)

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hulklol (352) (@hulklol) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@luzimzo,

Actually I was referring to all the history of humans where it was competitions inside a culture, not between cultures. Of course with the beginning of civilization this competition-like lifestyle was expanded to all over the world.

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nask11111 (1) (@kirnasser) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@jakefloria, this global problem consists of problems of many individuals.that`s why it should be observed from lower level.
1 one personal question : are you from usa?

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nask11111 (1) (@kirnasser) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

Hey, guys, tell me please,the majority of users of this website is from usa, isnt it?

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onelovechange (440) (@jakefloria) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@kirnasser yeah agreed. And I live on land considered American. You?

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Anonymous (0) (@crateone) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@thepinkmyr, the people are getting more and more connected and the value of the internet’s population gets exponetially higher day-by-day. Think about how big the value of the internet will be in 20 years given our exponentially evolving technology.

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nask11111 (1) (@kirnasser) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@jakefloria, it`s rather easy to notice , cause Americans most of all are fond of speaking of their democracy( in my personal opinion) . Oh,Russia is my country.

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onelovechange (440) (@jakefloria) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@kirnasser haha yeah I guess so but I’m not super tied to it. I think most systems just need work and manipulation. Are you fond of Communism?

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@thepinkmyr, Illusions seperate us from each other, and the biggest illusions is the sense of right and wrong, it is that sense that ultimately divides us all.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

To elaborate: The phenomenal world is not a bunch of random good and bad things happen, it is just dynamic cause and effect. Our actions are not good or bad they can only have advantages and disadvantages. No person is good or bad they only have strengths and weakness’. In conclusion: Our sense of right and wrong is simply the result of our experiences and cultural conditioning, in reality it has no practical logic to it, especially that we all have a our own unique sense of right and wrong is clear evidence that it is not natural but manufactored.

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Alex (141)M (@alexishungry) 9 years, 6 months ago ago

@thepinkmyr, I love the way you start your topics!

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nask11111 (1) (@kirnasser) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@jakefloria, ha-ha-ha, communism and socialism stayed in the past. it`s not effective policy nowadays

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@thepinkmyr, “It’s a sincere hope of mine that ideologies like these pass.”

They will, we will just have to bide our time. There’s no reason to care so much about what other people think anyway.

“What do you think separates us as human beings?”

The fact that we’re all individuals.
There is I, and then there’s others, and then there is of course the sum total including everyone. But there is no “we” or “them,” the only true “we” is the whole earth’s population. Other than that, we are all standalone individuals.

Embrace it.

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thePinkMyr (24) (@thepinkmyr) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@manimal, Do our cells do the same thing? Are they each individual? If I am a collection of all of the bacteria and cells that make up my body, am I individual? What is it to be individual?
If each cell saw itself as an individual, what would they do? Would they replicate quicker and quicker out of fear of death and being forgotten? Would they try to immortalize themselves in silly ways so other cells would know there name at the ed of the line?

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Grand Kahlib (76) (@kahlib) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

cultural lag. we are hardwired to live in tribal societies consisting of primary groups. we live in modern societies of specialization, shifting our focus outward, alienating us from those closest and replacing intimate needs with consumer goods. it’s a unique time.

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Grand Kahlib (76) (@kahlib) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

actually i’d like to clarify: our attention has shifted from immediate familial needs to the image of the selves we desire to be. these images are upheld by the things we buy, according to the training many of us have had since birth. the products we identify with are given power when we consume, thus perpetuating this system.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@thepinkmyr, “Do our cells do the same thing? Are they each individual?”

More or less. They function together because they all stick to their own and do their thing regardless of eachother.

“If I am a collection of all of the bacteria and cells that make up my body, am I individual?”

Yes, because you are you. You’re made out of many things, but the sum total is you, and you have free will. You think, you feel, you act.

“If each cell saw itself as an individual, what would they do? Would they replicate quicker and quicker out of fear of death and being forgotten?”

Yknow, that’s pretty much what they do. The thirst for continued life is all that drives them, all they do is try to stay alive. Whether or not they feel what you call “fear” is a good question, but I believe they do.
Each cell is unique and has its own task.

“Would they try to immortalize themselves in silly ways so other cells would know there name at the ed of the line?”

Nah. Nor do most individualists.
But then again, I doubt cells can think or make decisions. You can, I can. That’s what makes us individuals.

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