Why Capitalism is good:

Anonymous (@) 8 years, 9 months ago

There are some meant to lead and some meant to follow. Those who lead tend to hold positions of power and those who follow tend to become laborers. True capitalism allows us Americans to decide to work for ourselves and make our own lives happen.

February 16, 2013 at 8:13 am
stryder (845) (@stryder) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Capitalism is great if you’re at the top of the pyramid; not so great if you’re near the bottom.

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Anonymous (22) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@stryder, Very true, that is why we all have to work towards the top; unless, you
were born into it.

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Kristian Jaded (75) (@mentalkink) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@lougrey, You can’t work your way to the top, when corruption fills the cracks of the system

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Kevin (536) (@placid) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@lougrey, “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” John Steinbeck

I like to see you tell this to someone who grew up in the ghetto. Sure, there all those lucky ones that do succeed in playing the game, but for every success story there atleast 10 fails that equally worked as hard.

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Nakedape (112) (@nakedape) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Capitalism in its current form today, will not exist in the future. Capitalism is inefficient, inhumane and illogical on many levels.

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DMTageous (18) (@dmtageous) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

I’m not quite sure where to start with this…might as well start at the beginning. “There are some meant to lead and some meant to follow”. I’m sorry to say this but you have been indoctrinated to believe this through nothing but commercial propaganda. This “American dream” that you’re referring to is a joke, and to loosely quote George Carlin “Its called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it!”. The idea that there are those meant to lead and those to follow is a tool used by the elite in order to put the responsibility on the lower classes. It is true we are in charge of what we make of ourselves but the only civil and moral process of living in a society is equal rights and opportunity. With Capitalism, there is no such thing as either. The elite, or “leaders” as you call them have such a sense of entitlement that they have created this American Nightmare in order for us to feel responsible for making our own lives sustainable and “comfortable” and I say comfortable when I mean surrounding ourselves with material possessions we don’t need. There are over 700 million people without access to fresh water. Would you say that they’re simply just followers who havnt worked hard enough to become leaders? I wouldn’t. Our modern society has created the idea that competition and financial struggle will lead you to happiness, when in reality it only leads to class separation. What is genius about this is that not only does it separate “us” from “them” it separates us from ourselves. While we toil everyday cursing the wealthy but hoping to one day be raised to their heights we kick each other down and climb on each others backs only to be kicked back down the ladder by another. While they laugh and say “well you have to work harder than that to be like me!” I feel that I’m getting off point though. “Those who lead tend to hold positions of power and those who follow tend to become laborers”. The reality of this with near astronomical exceptions is those who have money hold positions of power and those without money are laborers. This is the truth and you along with the rest of the world are under the illusion that leaders are to be trusted and revered because of their status. “…that is why we all have to work towards the top; unless, you were born into it”. You speak of it like “being born to greatness”. If by being born into it you mean being born into a family with a substantial amount of money then yes people can be born “leaders”. It is time for a social evolution. The evolution of man did not end with opposable thumbs. It is easily in our power to feed, clothe, and educate every human being on this planet if they so choose to accept it. Through evolution we lost our tails and I believe the next thing to loose is our ego. This is not a struggle, this is life. Instead of denying people their right to live we need to embrace each other. Transcend social status. Transcend race. Transcend nationality’s and borders. What the fuck are we waiting for?!

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owenkellogg (34) (@owenkellogg) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

People who say, “Capitalism doesn’t work” don’t realize that we’ve never really tried it in this country.

Let’s not confuse capitalism with what exists in the U.S. : Corporatism – or “Crony Capitalism.” A business – small or otherwise – should be allowed to succeed as long as others’ lives, liberty and/or property are not violated. LIkewise, a business should be allowed to fail if they don’t succeed. That means NO MORE BAILOUTS OR SUBSIDIES at the expense of the taxpayer. You either make it on your own efforts and then enjoy the fruits of your labor – or you don’t. Period. As a side note, this concept also applies to individuals: Your life is not my problem. My life (and earnings) are not your property. You fuck up, and I’m under no obligation to help you – unless I CHOOSE to out of charity.

Just as important as separation of church and state, we should have separation of business and state. That’s the only way true capitalism can work.

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Alex (141)M (@alexishungry) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@owenkellogg said it really well.

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owenkellogg (34) (@owenkellogg) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

As for the “lead or follow” thing – here’s an idea:

Why don’t we try to take control of our own lives and lead ourselves? We often see many choices in life as “either/or”, but I always try to find a Third Way. We often have many more choices than the Matrix would like for us to believe.

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Anonymous (22) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@dmtageous, I grew up broke. Went to film school, got a degree and now run a music video production company; this is a result of my hard work, not indoctrination.

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Anonymous (22) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@mentalkink, You have to know how to play the game if you want the end prize.

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Anonymous (22) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@owenkellogg, We did try capitalism earlier in American history, however with the bureaucratic corruption and the advent of modern mass production, corporatism took over.

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MPHill (775) (@everymorningbornfromtheashes) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

With all things, moderation. With all things discretion.

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Kristian Jaded (75) (@mentalkink) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@lougrey, In a perfect world maybe, heres a link that might support your side :) Its called Going Places (1948)

But I agree with @dmtageous, the American dream is an old one, and it is indeed faulty.

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Anonymous (22) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@placid, You can always find a way out. Here’s some advice given to me by a fellow business man, find out what you do best and do it better than anyone else. Advertise and charge.

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Anonymous (22) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@mentalkink, I am the result of playing the American game of “capitalism.” The entertainment business is very easy if you know how it works.

The American Dream was a way for businesses to attract immigrants to the country and use them for slave labor.

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Anonymous (22) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@mentalkink, I filmed a documentary about the American Dream.

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TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@placid, precisely.

@lougrey, but what if we could make enough stuff that we wouldn’t have to struggle for our place anymore? And what if we’re there already? I don’t believe life is for unhappiness, but for so many in capitalism it is so. I myself don’t like capitalism, but I know there won’t be any socialist cavalry to ride to the rescue. We’re all on our own. I’m looking for an idea to start a business, because I don’t want to have to rely on social welfare programs that might not exist and I’ve been an employee before, it’s miserable.

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Grand Kahlib (76) (@kahlib) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@lougrey
success from hard work can be a by-product of cptlsm. the true essence of cptlsm though is all about investments and later, inheritance. it has worked pretty well so far, but there is a disturbing trend of money pooling into few, powerful entities. if this continues regular folks will be economically marginalized by default.

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TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@lougrey, but what if you do nothing best? and you haven’t time to learn something? are you then doomed?

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Joel (40) (@jp907) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

If any system worked exactly as it is designed to, it would be perfect. Once they’re implemented people find all sorts of ways to fuck them up.

Corporate capitalism in the US has led us astray, and while we can sit and complain all we want about fat cat billionaires, we have to remember that for all intents and purposes, we are the 1% of the world. Being at any level in a capitalist regime will leave you feeling empty and inadequate if you don’t realize that from the bottom rung, you’re leading a life many people would kill for.

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Anonymous (22) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@theskafish, No you’re not doomed. I believe everybody has at least one talent. However, I’ll see things through your question’s perspective. If you don’t have anything your good have and you don’t have time to learn, you can always become an independent contractor in general labor.

You have to decide what type of work you want to profit from. This society and government caters to the self employed. If you want to enjoy more of the perks then, you have to learn how the “game” works.

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Anonymous (22) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@kahlib, This is part of what capitalism is supposed to be. In a capitalist system, people exchange services for monetary value with little to no government intervention.
Meaning, I could be an independent janitor.

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Anonymous (22) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@theskafish, I understand you. Well lets start off with, what are some skills you believe you may have?

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Caleb McCoy (111) (@cjmccoy93) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@lougrey, I’ll pass on system that requires learning how to play a “game,” simply so I can enjoy “perks.” I’d like to say life isn’t a “game,” but unfortunately that’s what capitalism has turned it into, encouraging those who are selfishly motivated, while discouraging community and group-led efforts. Capitalism is naturally divisive.

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