Why was it required to create this universe of illusions when god is only truth?

 Auhralam (@Auhralam)6 years, 9 months ago

Our universe is illusionary as truth is ambigous because it is percieved through our senses and senses vary in nature making the truth relative and at the same blow the entire universal reality percieved by an individual may be called falsehood by another. God is the only entity that remains constant, unvaried by perceptions and undevoured by space and time. The only harmony and the only existense. Why then was this confusion of illusion(perception) deemed necessary by nature. Why was God not clear to every soul the same way with same clarity. What is the existensial (not spiritual) reason for the illusions. Please answer on basis of existensial nececity / evolution / metaphysical grounds based on sound reasoning, not on some hardcore beliefs that cannot be supported through logical reasoning. Thank you.

July 21, 2014 at 8:38 am
Marlon (97) (@shoeopener) 6 years, 9 months ago ago

You asked for it, pathetic philosopher.


stormcloudmafia (19) (@redriffle) 6 years, 9 months ago ago

simple. in order for one thing to exist, there must be an exact complete opposite of its self. The universe is a mass collection of dualities. You can not have truth with out having non truth, or anti-truth. You can have dark where there is light. This is the cosmic dance of creation manifesting new depths, versions, illusions, and expansion in possible of the unpossible. It can be seen as a ingoing eternity of conflict back and forth between the realities of matter and anti-matter. Man tday has learned how to create these changes on levels faster than the changes or outcomes would be if played out without manipulation. When you throw the human factor into the bowl of the universe, shit gets pretty crazy with the diesiee to know the things unknown. Science/technology has evolved almost into its own race for seeking and creating endless changing of there dualities. knowledge of knowing is like a black whole in space, racing to turn outter space into consumed knowledge at universal depths, speeds, and lengths.. for ones gifted with the senses to see, hear, feel or touch these events going on can preserve the not as a whole picture, yet rather a spec of the truth and the entire infinite meaning and purpose of one specs conflicts..
or something like that.

Auhralam (0) (@Auhralam) 6 years, 9 months ago ago

Thanks, This is exactly the answer I was searching for. DUALITY that’s it. For the existense of the non-existent (supreme identitty, god, etc), the existence of this universe of material is necessary. You mentioned science and technology increasing the confusion, so we may ask, applying duality, does this quest for knowlege leading to depletion of intelligence/existing knowledge. What are we losing at the cost of science and technology. Are we humans responsible for creating of some kind of void wich will consume entire life of the universe later ( grey/dark matter, etc) ?

Kris (328) (@kjbaran) 6 years, 9 months ago ago

God, Universe, I am, the Witness, the Noticer, Alpha and Omega, the plane of zero curvature, “dark matter”, are all one in the same. It is the cause to all illusory effect. What we call “matter” is merely the condensed male condition of the 2-way thought. For everything “here” is but an electric thought wave, from the boson to the galaxies.

The answer to your first question is in the question. Confusion is naturally necessary. The “nature” of God is balance, so we look out at the earth and call it nature! Providing a baby a steak-burger for his hunger would create an imbalance, resulting in death. The confusion of the illusion is naturally necessary until further notice. Until YOU notice. This is a growing that may take time until it takes no time at all.

Soul is a conscious body illusion but God is always clear. The clarity will come to the extent of your desire for stillness. On the plane of zero curvature, you must collapse the wave. In meditation, you must be nothingness. On a scale, you must be the fulcrum.

The reason for illusions for now is to provide a challenging environment to learn from. What is being learned? You. To the extent that you Know yourself, you’ll Know the illusions. Start with basic illusions like anger or falling in love, that’s a good one. If it has a beginning, it has an end. In the end, the only thing that remains constant is You. When the constant is reached, you’ll Know the illusion as self therefore voiding the illusion entirely. Illusions are only “bad” if you lend them the power to be. Falling in love is a wonderful experience for most, but as most experiences are experienced, full of wonder begins to evolve into full of knowing. Same can be said for religion.

Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 6 years, 9 months ago ago

Why was it required to create illusions like God, when the world is only truth?

“God is the only entity that remains constant, unvaried by perceptions and undevoured by space and time.”

-Right… except God was invented some 2k-3k years ago, and every definition is different. Not only that, but each definition is also full of contradictions and has changed over time.

There is no reason for the “illusions”, (which are not illusions at all) for they are not made by man or anything similar to man.
All these “illusions” are necessary though, for our existance that is, since we cannot exist without a universe.

You are just the byproduct of gases intermingling in a vast space, just like everything else. Your ego, however, does not like this notion for it wants to feel special and important. Yet the ego is just a minor addition to this particular life form we call mammals, it is insignificant and its distortions of perception are all bullshit.

God doesn’t exist outside of human imagination. Just like that anime figure in your avatar.
You may wish one or both were real, but that is just egoic bias and wishful irrational thinking.

God is just a byproduct of human imagination and lacking logic.

A byproduct in the mind of a byproduct, living on a byproduct which along with a couple other byproducts orbit a larger byproduct, which in turn orbits an even greater one… and so on and so forth.

God is not the greatest, it is in fact the most insignificant of all.

Anonymous (64) (@) 6 years, 9 months ago ago

I don’t know what this place is, but I know by not observing, by not thinking, by sitting still…that I can undo the finite and restore the infinite… that the particle can become a wave again… a probability cloud of all possibilities…

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