Why women feel so inferior?

Prittii (@prittii) 10 years, 1 month ago

One of the last posts in HE is about feminism and how society sees women as inferior, bla, bla, bla!

I love this website, but I didn’t like this post! I think the idea was to promote feminism and show how women is still discriminated, but, in my opinion, it’s totally unbalanced and actually helps out a lot for some women getting even worse self-esteem than they already have!

So I’m making this post that we can point the ADVANTAGES women have over men… Which are lots! And there is no reason to feel inferior!

Of course if you get into the mechanical engineer university, as a woman you might be victim of some prejudice, but that is as much as a man suffers when he wants to be a nurse!

Here is the point: If you want as a woman (for some crazy reason!) get into “men” world, of course it will be a challenge… and if you are intelligent, I’m sure you’ll master it! I just prefer keeping myself in the fabulous women’s world, where everything is about making life enjoyable, fun and beautiful… and not about getting the nobel prize.

Here it is 10 reasons why being a woman is great:

1. A ship is sinking, who gets in the safety boat? “- Women and children first!”

2. You can wear whatever you want! You can cut your hair short and wear a jeans and everybody will think you are modern… Try a guy wearing a pink t-shirt and long hair: then everybody thinks he is homosexual.

3. Any time you want sex, you just need to announce it! There is always going to be some guy up for it! Not the same situation with guys.

4. Women by birth already have an important function in the society: procreation. Even if you don’t use it, it’s there! But men must find an importance in the society by certain age, otherwise he starts being pushed aside, or even eliminated (military service… wars…).

5. Women are beautiful! Even for other women… We are nice to be looked at! (Men magazine cover = woman; women magazine cover = woman)

6. Women are pleasant by nature! Entertainers, sociable and care takers. Not a surprise so many women like studying sociology, marketing, cinema, pedagogy, psychology…

7. The societies with biggest amount of women in the government are also the most developed societies, because things go better when women are in charge.

8. It’s much easier for women to be accepted by the society as homosexual than for men.

9. Women can dance, cry, scream of fear… and we are not judged for that! Men do the same and get lots of judgement.

10. Women can get multiple orgasms!

So, as we see, men don’t get easy as you thought! So from now on, please women, get rid of this low self-esteem and this wish of being like a man… enjoy being a woman! It’s a blessing and not a burden!

August 27, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Jeslyn (594) (@jeslyntweedie) 10 years ago ago

@prittii,

I agree, most western men aren’t bitches. I don’t understand that.

Sure. But when you post a topic like that. And say why being a woman is fantastic. That created the notion of why men are fantastic. And really, everyone is fantastic.

When you do things like this though–it compares genders that shouldn’t be compared this way. We shouldn’t be approaching why we’re fantastic because of only womanly or manly qualities.

It is both. And different for each person. And a completely useless competition because there is no broad equality of this except within each gender. And those that are broadly equal have some learning to do.

It is a heavier topic than you thought.

This is one of the points of HE, other people challenging and making you rethink the way you think.

A good thing to practice all the time–but also realizing not everybody cares. Or should care. Some people need to not care and focus all their caring into other things.

Everyone is different, just like different cell functions in an organism. Different organisms in an ecosystem. Different elements in matter.

All working together.

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Prittii (55) (@prittii) 10 years ago ago

@beyond, “Isn’t it obvious that when you’re declaring more demands you’re going to have issues?”

Didn’t understand!

About orgasm, believe me… It’s not a silly problem! Many times women can feel used!

Personally (I’m already regretting writing that lol) I can’t have orgasm the first time I sleep with a guy… I’m shy, uncomfortable… I really have to know the guy before I relax… So I don’t like one night stands! I’ve done it before and I felt used after… It’s terrible! Here it comes another male advantage! But maybe some other women don’t feel the same… It’s a personal issue!

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 10 years ago ago

@prittii, You haven’t found your master. That’s why you need a little alcohol too. Ok, we’re not talking about that here. I meant that the more demanding you are of something, the bigger chance to get disappointed. :)

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Prittii (55) (@prittii) 10 years ago ago

@jeslyntweedie, I understand your point. I didn’t disagree with your post. I wasn’t proposing a competition… I explained in the beginning that I didn’t like the main post of feminism made a few days ago by HE. I thought it created a vision of how women are such poor misunderstood and unheard creature. That’s why I made this post!

Did you see the comments people made in that post?

“Since a child, I envied males and considered it an awful punishment to have been born female. ”

” I would have to work twice as hard to get a job – because I have a vagina”

That’s what I wanted to change: this negative view about being a woman! Nothing to do with competition. You can see how I posted in a fun way, mentioning how “things go better when women are in charge”, “man can’t wear pink”, “women are pleasant”… maybe I wasn’t “fun” enough. lol

You know that thing of law of attraction: If we keep screaming “men earn more, we have to work double to get promoted, bla, bla, bla” then your wish is my command! So idea is speak about the positive sides… each one in with their own (another reason why I didn’t criticize your post!).

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Jeslyn (594) (@jeslyntweedie) 10 years ago ago

@prittii,

I know, more like with what Sasho was saying ‘demands’ on one side automatically creates the counterpart. This competition, even if unintentional.
Sometimes it is good. In this case the arguments over gender capabilities is more counter productive.

That was a horrible thread. This one does redeem the topic in ways so thanks. But feminism…why no masculinism? ;) It’s all the same and different.

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Jeslyn (594) (@jeslyntweedie) 10 years ago ago

@jeslyntweedie,

Feminism is a widely subjectively popular thing.

Masculinism isn’t. At least men don’t name it, don’t fight for it, or discuss it as ‘feminists’ do.

Dominance is often not needing to prove something to a ‘lower’ level of anything, because the dominance is already known and trusted.

Women need to stop talking about proving themselves and just do whatever they’re trying to prove. If you want true gender equality.

Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman, Marilyn Monroe, Amelia Earhart.

Actions prove more than talking. Whining. Most men know this already. It is why societies have been largely built on male influence. Credibility factors in action vs. Nonaction.

This is one of the things a lot
of women REALLY need to learn from men for…not equality necessarily, not the extreme meaning of equality–because gender strengths are definitely important for humanity.

For harmony though. Balance.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 10 years ago ago

“The western men are not behaving like bitches! Where did you find this idea?” @prittii

Yes they are, something awful. They’re weak, irresponsible, dependent, gullible, easily offended, externally motivated, insecure, pathetic little wimps.
These are all BITCH TRAITS.
They’re the type of “men” that mother nature would kill because they’re lousy. The only reason they’re alive is because other men (and some women) like to keep them as pets. Nature deems them unworthy, thus they’re at the mercy of human husbandry. They’re bitches, there’s no denying it.

“from the first moment you can see the guy is not ideal, so no waste of time.” @prittii

Then what you want is money, not a man or his love. There’s a much more efficient way of doing that, though it’s frowned upon it’s still one of the oldest jobs :P

“Like I said before, women are sociable, entertaining and care takers.” @prittii

And so are men. Equally. Most social circles revolve around a man, and society is led by men. Most musicians, comedians, and such are men, and those movie/pop star girls are just performing stuff made primarily by men. Policemen, firefighters, and soldiers are all a type of care-taker role which is almost exclusively done by men.
I’m not saying men are better at those qualities, men and women just do it in different ways, but it’s a lousy argument to prove one side’s superiority is all I’m saying.

But there are other things where women are much better than men, and vice versa.

“I think its really attractive when a guy is powerful, strong, very intelligent, gentleman” @prittii

This is a direct contradiction to what you said earlier about western men, and about who’s quality and who’s not.

“Men can get turned on just looking at a woman naked (sometimes not even that – just the imagination do the work!), women need to be touched, physical, etc.” @prittii

Sure, a man gets turned on just looking at a naked woman IF SHE’S HOT, but that doesn’t mean he gets horny (unless he’s pathetic.) But the same thing goes for a woman, really, there are tons of studies claiming this. And how come girls go crazy for those good-looking guys in the movies and bands, eh? Because they get turned on by looking at them. Same thing for both genders.
Women don’t need to be touched, it just has more impact, but the same thing goes for men.
As for the imagination part, women do that A LOT MORE. Men generally don’t think much about things like this, our minds are simpler, emptier, more focused, less hungry for stimulation. That’s how a masculine mind works.

Most of that stuff about guys being horndogs and women being a bit “prude” is JUST SOCIAL CONDITIONING. It’s not in our nature, it’s in people’s MINDS. Because they listen too much to bullshit social conditioning and let it shape them (again, this is a bitch trait.)

“Men always have orgasm, women don’t… Some women don’t get even one orgasm during the whole life! I actually know a few that have problems with that… But women’s orgasm are stronger… and longer.” @prittii

Men don’t always orgasm, it’s just that most guys these days are so damn eager to get off due to the media sex craze.
Women not getting their orgasms is mostly due to two things, 1 Their own mental blocks, mostly caused by listening too much to social conditioining, and 2. Sleeping with lousy guys who aren’t actually attractive to her at a deep level, just superficial ego attraction or fear of being lonely.

Yes, women’s orgasms are longer and stronger, and their genitals are much more sensitive, they have more erogenous zones, can get much more horny, fall in love much deeper than men do, and so on.
This goes to PROVE THAT WOMEN ARE THE MORE SEXUAL GENDER.

Although, men can have really long orgasms too with practice. But they’re nothing compared to those of a woman.

I think you’re too concentrated on the surface stuff, which is mostly just caused by people’s egos and social conditioning. It doesn’t say much about the nature of the genders.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 10 years ago ago

@jeslyntweedie, Are you saying Marilyn is a role model or something? She was just a walking talking sex doll.
This stuff scares me.

@tangledupinplaid21, Sure, I agree absolutely. I don’t mind women getting aggressive with guys, especially not since those guys deserve it (though I doubt a woman would like to hear my reasoning behind this haha.)
I’m just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy and the “shadow data” that was obviously overlooked when making the statement about domestic violence and rape.

There are layers, nuances and angles to everything.

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Kidd (1,059) (@kidd) 10 years ago ago

@manimal, I agree with just about everything you’ve said, except for you saying men are generally more responsible than women.

Doesn’t this come down to the individual? Or do you mean quantity-wise? Because men are definitely responsible for MORE people–they’re the leaders and such. They’re often the head of a household, the breadwinners.

But, in day-to-day life, do you think gender matters when it comes to responsibility overall? Or is this an experience thing?

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Brett (39) (@brett) 10 years ago ago

@manimal, You honestly should start a blog. I know it’d be helpful to a ton of people. Seriously.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 10 years ago ago

@brett, I’m working on it, I’ll launch it pretty soon.

@kidd, Yeah it’s individual, but men have a more “natural alignment” with it. It’s a masculine trait, men are a bit more masculine. It’s all in the biology.
And when I talk about responsibility, I’m mostly referring to responsibility of self. Self-control, self-reliance, self-motivation, that kind of stuff. Men are naturally more “driven from within” and less affected by what’s going on. More stable, not fluctuating, a man in his natural masculine mode doesn’t budge. Men are “narrow and streamlined” while women are “vast and vibrant.” This only goes so far, though, it’s not like men are pure masculine or women are pure feminine, both are fairly balanced by nature. But the differences are still fundamental, and in the “smaller picture” quite big. Especially in man-woman situations.

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Jeslyn (594) (@jeslyntweedie) 10 years ago ago

@manimal,

1. Some women are just that though. And it’s all they want to be, and it makes them fully and completely content. And it fulfills their inner purpose. And they don’t want to be anything else.

Again, everyone is different.

We see less of this now, though it’s definitely still abundant–there are more and more ‘dominant’ women who are getting noticed in society, who aren’t necessarily super concerned with reproduction, or at least have embraced systematic and intellectual planning from men in this regard when engaging in sexual activities. This would make sense for humanity, since we have completely overpopulated the planet.

Imagine less stupid girls/women getting pregnant all the time because they haven’t tuned into planning (hunting/masculine) ahead. Less unplanned pregnancy=Less people=more resources=better off for humanity.

Hypothetical stuff of course.

2. Marilyn Monroe was so much more than that.

“Dogs never bite me. Just humans.”

“I don’t mind living in a man’s world as long as I can be a woman in it.”

“First, I’m trying to prove to myself that I’m a person. Then maybe I’ll convince myself that I’m an actress.”

“I restore myself when I’m alone.”

“A sex symbol becomes a thing. I just hate to be a thing.”

“Men are so willing to respect anything that bores them.”

“Being a sex symbol is a heavy load to carry, especially when one is tired, hurt and bewildered.”

“I’m very definitely a woman and I enjoy it.”

“I am involved in a freedom ride protesting the loss of the minority rights belonging to the few remaining earthbound stars. All we demanded was our right to twinkle.”

“If I’d observed all the rules, I’d never have got anywhere.”

“Husbands are chiefly good as lovers when they are betraying their wives.”

“I have too many fantasies to be a housewife. I guess I am a fantasy.”

Tsk tsk, so judgemental Elion. She understood some things, some only in their primitive beginnings, but she definitely understood some things.

She was not just a “walking talking sex doll”

Some men have such bleak outlooks on female icons they haven’t even tried to understand, and just go with the majority idea of a woman that their whole gender has. So silly. Stop stereotyping. You’ve been doing that a lot.

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Prittii (55) (@prittii) 10 years ago ago

@manimal, My God… I think I never read so much crap in my life! How old are you? lol

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Kidd (1,059) (@kidd) 10 years ago ago

@manimal, Ah, yes, I understand what you’re saying now. :)

That’s definitely true in most cases.

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Prittii (55) (@prittii) 10 years ago ago

@manimal, “Then what you want is money, not a man or his love.”

It’s nothing to do with money, it’s to do with respect and appreciation. So sorry if you want to find a woman to appreciate only your beauty and lack of gentleness, you better become gay… or low your standards in question of appearance.

“a man gets turned on just looking at a naked woman IF SHE’S HOT, but that doesn’t mean he gets horny (unless he’s pathetic.)”

Then porno wouldn’t exist.

“And how come girls go crazy for those good-looking guys in the movies and bands, eh? Because they get turned on by looking at them.”

I see you really understand teenager girls mind.

“Men don’t always orgasm, it’s just that most guys these days are so damn eager to get off due to the media sex craze.”

The ones I slept with always had…

“Yes, women’s orgasms are longer and stronger, and their genitals are much more sensitive, they have more erogenous zones, can get much more horny, fall in love much deeper than men do, and so on.
This goes to PROVE THAT WOMEN ARE THE MORE SEXUAL GENDER.”

Did you notice your contradiction? In the other post you said men can also have multiple orgasms… now man can’t anymore?

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 10 years ago ago

@prittii, Hey! That’s no way to discuss things.

And it looks like you have no counter arguments, is that true? If so, maybe you should reevaluate some stuff.

@jeslyntweedie,

1. It’s not something we’re seeing less of, we see more of it. Marilyn was just the prototype, these human “dolls” are more common these days than ever before.

As for the reproduction part, sure it’s a solution for the overpopulation problem, but if a person doesn’t want to reproduce there’s definitely something missing. It’s one of the most basic drives, purposes if you will. Such a person is no longer fully human. More like a dull societal unit than a person. It’s painful to watch what people are becoming.

2. All fine and dandy quotes, but what’re they really saying? And who’s really saying them?

Sure she understood some things, but so does everyone. What’re you getting at with that?

I don’t have a bleak outlook on female icons, not at all. But I don’t like those hyped ones, for very good reasons. They’re not so much icons of womanhood as they’re icons of other things, and they’re really the nastiest kind of propaganda machines. She gets into men’s heads because she’s sexy, and she gets into women’s heads because “she’s such a cool female icon” (and because they dream of the attention she’s getting.)

She was just a doll. A human puppet. A thing, someone’s possession, a piece of property. A tool. That’s what that persona was created for, that and functioning as a “willing whore.”
These nasty role models are everywhere these days, both genders, and they’re all the same, and they’re all as nasty. It’s all just a fucking veneer, read between the lines, and you’ll see that they’re the worst role models you could imagine. And they were made for that very purpose.

This is starting to go off-topic though.

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Jeslyn (594) (@jeslyntweedie) 10 years ago ago

@manimal,

Never said didn’t want to reproduce. But planned reproduction ultimately produces human beings with more potential for self-actualization when the parents are ready and know the capability they’re bringing into the world and provide for it. Unplanned pregnancy can produce great things too but not really the majority of them statistically.

You are so ridiculously misogynistic. And I don’t even like feminism.

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Marie (2,051) (@ARCANUS) 10 years ago ago

@jeslyntweedie, that is well put.

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Marie (2,051) (@ARCANUS) 10 years ago ago

@jayyrod1, hear, hear!

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 10 years ago ago

@prittii,

1. Beauty and lack of gentleness, that’s not me. That’s not why the girls love me.
No need to lower my standards, nor would I ever do so, I already get what I want. As of now, I have an amazing girlfriend who’s also great looking. Never have I paid her way or anything like that, I’m not a fake piece of shit.

The guy who refuses to pay your way is not the one lacking respect and appreciation, YOU are, for expecting those things from him. How have you deserved those things from him in any sort of way? You haven’t. Any guy who would succumb to that shit is definitely a measly little pussy who’s only picked you because he’s desperate. I guess you enjoy mediocrity, seeing how that’s the choice you would make.

2. Yes, porn would exist. Porn is age-old, and it was never a male-only thing. The reason why porn is more associated with men is because of social conditioning. And just so you know, lots of women watch porn, they just don’t speak openly about it. Because of social conditioning.
Porn is more than nudity though, it’s actual hardcore sex yknow.

3. It’s not just teenage girls, you can see this stuff in all age groups. And btw, teenage girls are the most feminine ones anyway and thus the prime examples for discussion.

4. I bet you feel real proud of that, huh? But guess what, those guys who fucked you do not provide reasonable empirical data. It’s an invalid point.

5. What the hell are you talking about? I never said men can’t go multiple, you made that up. We can, and some of us do, I do.

Umm, now do you have any actual counter arguments?

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Bobby (190) (@bobbylloydxd) 10 years ago ago

A man died and went to heaven. He asks god “why did you make women so beautiful?” God responds “so that you would love her.” The man then asks “why find you make her so silly and illogical?” God responds “so that she would love you.”
Just a joke.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 10 years ago ago

@jeslyntweedie, Planned reproduction to produce people with more potential? There’s a fancy word for that, eugenics. And if a man brings that topic up, he’s labelled a nazi. But if a woman does, it’s all of a sudden all fine and dandy. Then I say make the men shut up about it and keep the women talking.

However, what’s a “great thing” is highly subjective. Your opinion, mine opinion, and anyone else’s opinion are very different. How would you feel if you wanted to have kids and someone told you it wouldn’t be a great thing, and thus didn’t let you?
Looks like the tables are turned now, I’m the one telling you about being humane, this is confusing.
See, we’re all full of that kind of stuff. I do agree with your point about planned reproduction, but there are lots who don’t. And taking away someone’s right to reproduce freely just sounds horrible to me.

You call me a misogynist, but upon what do you base this claim? I have no hate or grudge toward women, I LOVE women more than anything else. Not trying to be defensive here, I’m just very confused by you saying such things about me. Especially seeing how I haven’t said anything misogynistic, even in a sarcastic way.
I’m confused.

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Women feel inferior due to like a bizbillion years of shitty treatment, and because a man could knock a woman the fuck out really easily.

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Jeslyn (594) (@jeslyntweedie) 10 years ago ago

@manimal,

I didn’t mean planned reproduction in that sense. Though sure, makes sense.

I mean planned being–a couple with financial stability, shelter, and life experience/wisdom bringing a child into the world.

Vs.

Children bringing children into the world due to lack of planning or education (birth control)

Not always bad–but with lower rates of success in humans that contribute to humanity. Some can make it work but only with lots of support from wise people who help them. Without that…well. You know.

Misogynistic. As in you take this male superiority standpoint. Neither gender is superior. Men are biologically given an advantage in social dominance–does not mean they are superior when our lifespans are now 80+ years and women can learn to employ the same strategies men inherit from their genetic primal ancestry.

Only physically are things definitely skewed and not at all balanced. But
There are female bodybuilders, who can out perform a lot of men. Gymnasts. We are good at different things and when we mix art and strength–female gymnastics and dance.

When men mix technology with feminine emotional intuition–we get social media, this website, graphic design.

Great things come from thinking that no gender is superior. Female physical strength creates different things than male physical strength. Male sensitivity and emotions create different things than female sensitivity and emotions. Because you can bring the very genetically familiar into the unfamiliar.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 10 years ago ago

My goodness. First, a woman could beat the shit out of me if she’s in great shape. Second, women feel inferior as long as they feel inferior it seems. Society doesn’t make you feel any fucking thing. You feel it. There are even women that believe there is a matriarchy. Bottom line – everyone is full of shit.

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