Wisdom of the Holy

Manimal (@manimal) 9 years, 10 months ago

Hello HEthens, what’s good? It’s time for another one of “those” threads. This one is about the bible, the word of god, Jesus, the antichrist, sin, heaven, hell, and the HUGE misconceptions about these things.

Disclaimer: First of all, I want to address any Christians who are easily offended or unwilling to read things that oppose their beliefs. This thread will bring you no happiness or positive thoughts, and neither will you to the thread. So it is best, for everyone concerned, if you simply leave now.

For the rest of you, I want to explain myself a bit. I’ve written a bit about this topic in the past, but that was just a warmup and I didn’t talk much about the real meaning, and that’s what this thread is about. The sources of what I’m about to talk about, you ask? Well they’re many, including but not limited to: The rejected books, the pyramid texts, the masonic bible, ancient fragments of the holy book, kabala and mushroom cult writings, and various modern day studies of the ancient holy books.

This is going to be a bit of a long read, but I promise you it will be worth it, as it concerns the answer to so many of the major questions a lot of you ask.

Now that’s been taken care of. Are you ready? Open for wisdom?
Brace thyself, for verily I will be dropping bombs.

First, I want to talk about the antichrist and the bible. Do you know what the modern name for the antichrist is? It’s -wait for it- Christianity. I’m not making this up, the word “antichrist” was coined by authentic christians referring to the religious fools who misinterpreted and altered the holy book.
When, and how did this happen? The event is known as the council of Nicaea, and according to historians it took place in 325 AD.

A group of men of power had a counsil, voting about what the bible was about and which books should be kept and which should be rejected. They did this for various reasons, some wanted to believe in a spirit that could forgive their crimes and mistakes, others wanted a way to control people, others simply wanted to state their opinion and interpretation.
The most well-known of these people was Caesar Constantine, the pagan emperor of Rome. He had lived a horrible life and felt like shit about it, but he had read (and misinterpreted) a book that made him feel like there was a higher power that could forgive his crimes (such as killing his mother and boiling his wife to death.) So they all had a vote on what the holy book should be like, and then they remade it, the result is the bible. The book that still to this day, almost 2000 years later, is still misleading people and has caused more wars and suffering than any other piece of literature. Not only because of these people, but also because of ignorant dumbfounded dipshits mistranslating and misinterpreting it throughout almost 2 millennia.

(The lesson to learn here: When you let a bunch of ignorant imbeciles and people with hidden agendas and people with opinions but no knowledge vote about major matters, shitty things happen.)

The real holy book, the one that is crammed full of actual and useful wisdom, is not the bible. This real holy book is what I’ll be talking about here. Now, explaining the whole thing would make a whole book, so I’ll just focus on what I consider the most important part:

The allegory of Jesus. Basically, the whole story of Jesus is a new, simplified version of most of the stuff in the old testament.

I’m sure you know the story fairly well, so I won’t have to tell it. I’ll just explain the meanings of the major key parts.
A short recap: [SPOILER ALERT haha] Mary and Joseph cross the Jordan and go to Bethlehem, where they have a son, “Jesus,” this son then grows up and travels to Golgotha where he is crucified and reunited with God. Along the path he is tested by the devil, gets 12 disciples, is baptised by John, and so on.

So what’s this story got to do with anything in real life, you might ask? The answer is revealed when you understand what the names and analogies actually mean.

Let’s begin with Joseph and Mary, who traveled south to Bethlehem. Who were they? Well, Mary means “ocean” or “water.” Joseph means “increase” or “repeat.” With these hints, the picture becomes a little more clear. Fluid and increase/repetition, but what does it mean?

Let’s take a look at the word Bethlehem. Beth + Lehem = Bethlehem, in hebrew it means “house of bread.” What about the Jordan? Well, Jordan means stream/river. And Golgotha? “Place of skull.”

See what I’m getting at? It’s referring to the body. Place of skull? The top end of the spine. House of bread? The belly. River Jordan? The stream of fluids from your brain down through your spine.

That’s right, we’re talking biology. The holy book is about biology (and physics, a bit of chemistry, a little astrology, and some philosophy/spiritualy,) NOT RELIGION. The name “holy book” means “hole book.” Because the people who compiled it considered the contents to be all there is to know. (A foolish assumption, but to this day there is no more complete source of knowledge concerning the mystery of life and, in partcular, health.)

Mind = fucked? Good. Let’s proceed.

So it’s about biology, and we’re looking for the stuff that Mary and Joseph refer to. We know that it’s got something to do with fluids, but that’s about it. Well, now we can start to dig.

They traveled from (or through) a place called Galilee. It is referred to as the area around a lake from which the Jordan flows. So we’re looking for an area around a lake (collection of fluid) at the beginning of the Jordan (spinal fluid/cord.) It’s obviously referring to the brain.

Mary was “impregnated by Father God.” She was a “virgin mother.” Likewise, Joseph (these days known as a carpenter, but the old writings weren’t that specific, they just said he was a builder/creator) was given directions by God. God, AKA Jehova, El├Żon (and a whole bunch of other names) means “the most high.”

Something “above” passed these things down to this couple. Remember, we’re talking about the brain here. Where does this happen in the brain? Well, the “most high” in the brain is the cerebrum. Who are these couple below God? The answer is, the anterior and posterior glands of the Thalamus, the pineal (epiphysis) and the pituitary (hypophysis.)

What is the pineal gland? It’s a cone-shaped tiny reddish gland which contains a yellow, calcareous liquid. Its function includes relaying sensory signals to the cerebral cortex, and regulating consciousness, sleep and focus. This is where your melatonin is produced, and it is also a crucial part in the optic function. It is larger in males, and removing it from females lab animals leads to feminization. So it is, in a way, a masculine organ, often called the male spiritual organ by woo-woo people. Even more often FALSELY referred to as the third eye by these same people. Another thing these wackies often say is that “my pineal is calcified and won’t work, I gotta de-calcify it,” this is stupid because it’s supposed to be calcareous. (These crystals are the “salt” the bible mentions time and time again.) This gland IS the fabled ‘philosopher’s stone.’

What about the pituitary? It’s a protrusion from the hypothalamus, it’s larger than the pineal and contains a milky white mucus. it secretes nine hormones (including Prolactin, beta-endorphine and somatotropin.) It also regulates homeostasis. It is indeed the “mother” in the human body, nurturing and caring. It is the “female spiritual organ,” and is often falsely considered the “master gland” or “crown chakra.” (The actual crown chakra is the Claustrum, AKA God.)

There you have it, Mary and Joseph are the fluids produced in these glands refined from the secretions from the Claustrum. (By the way, Santa Claus is another metaphor for the claustrum, hence the name. “He’s giving great gifts to those who are good,” just like God.) The “milk and honey” of God refer to these same fluids, these same nicknames are used in the chinese tradition.

I mentioned the philosopher’s stone earlier, and those who know that story know that it’s one of the ingredients of the elixir of life. The other ingredient is pia mater, immaculate ether. Pia mater means pure mother. Yup, that’s right, Mary is this other ingredient. YOU HAVE THE INGREDIENTS for the elixir of life IN YOUR BODY. And that’s what the allegory of Jesus is all about, the production of this “elixir of life.” And I’m gonna explain to you how it’s done, I’M NOT JOKING THIS SHIT IS REAL.

These fluids travel down your body. In your solar plexus, Bethlehem, 1/10 of these fluids are kept and refined. This 1/10 is the seed, baby Jesus. The actual name of Jesus is Yashuah (Joshua) and means fish/bread/seed. When this seed is ready, it travels up again, to Golgotha, the base of the skull (Jade pillow in the eastern teachings.)

So what about the encounter with the devil? Who is the devil? He’s the ruler of Hell, we all know that. But what is hell? Hell is your lower body, everything below the solar plexus, everything above this is heaven. That’s why “the world belongs to Satan.” (Here’s another fun fact: Sacred stems from Sacrum, that bone connected to your pelvis, anything sacred by definition belongs to hell, talk about major misconception.)

The devil tempting Jesus is just an analogy for your primitive and decadent urges getting in the way of your higher practices. What does this mean? Basically, that your “monkey mind” will fight you if you’re not clever. What does Jesus say to the devil? “Get thee behind me, Satan.” That means, ignore the urges and rise above them.

What urges are we talking about here. Well the two main culprits are overeating and sexual decadence. Remember how I’ve said so many times that ejaculation drains your life? It’s true, and this is why, it wastes your “Chrism” (that’s where the word “jism” comes from) which feeds the the seed (Jesus.) You see, it is nourished from a gland called the Kardia (in males it’s located on the prostate,) in the east they call it the Kundalini. When you ejaculate, you drain this gland of its supply. That’s also why you’ll hear so many people say that women are better at spirituality, because they don’t waste their Kundalini as much. And it’s also why they generally live longer. When the egyptians talk about Osiris losing his power and his lantern when he gets his dick, this is what they mean. Also, one of the rejected books is called “The gospel of Eve” and it’s pretty much the same as the tantric teachings of the east, how to leverage sex to your advantage instead of to your ruin.

Then what about the 12 disciples? Every month (roughly 29 days, old zodiac based month system, not the modern one) a new seed is released. “But wait a minute, 1+12=13, this doesn’t add up” you say. Well, that’s what all the fuzz about Mary Magdalene is about. The last seed is “incomplete,” and the stupid men of the ancient day translated this to “woman.” Chauvinist much? So you know when they say she suffers and that “when she becomes like a man she will be saved”… they’re actually talking about when this partial seed becomes complete, ie when enough parts have collected to form a whole. This happens every fourth year, that’s the real origin of the “leap year” concept. This is why there’s so much talk in the old testament about saving your crops for three years and then rejoicing in the abundance.

The baptism of John? John baptized Jesus in the Jordan (spinal.) John means oil, it refers to a component of the spinal fluid/marrow. Jesus was baptized in it and became Christ.

Now to the crucifixion. What does it mean? Well, in Golgotha, at the base of the skull, in the Medulla Oblongata, there are two nerve crossings (where the Ida and Pingala nerves meat.) This is where Jesus is glorified by God, ceases being and reunites with the Father. All that stuff about torture and “why hast thou forsaken me” is nothing but bullshit that was made up later. In fact, this crucifixion releases the seed’s power. Think of two powerful rivers crossing, and the immense forces that result, or when you cross two live electric wires and it causes a huge explosion and sets things on fire. Those who have tried “raising the kundalini” probably know what I’m talking about, having felt this incredible painful energy burst at the base of the skull. That’s the crucifixion of Jesus.

Now, Jesus dying coming back for a while? That’s a metaphor for the results of this completion of a cycle of the “microcosmic orbit.” After the “death of Jesus” you don’t notice much, it seems like it’s gone, but after a few days it comes back and performs miraccles, then it goes away again after a few more days but the traces are still there. These miracles are incredible, the things that start happening in your mind and body are so sweet. Like, remember how Jesus cured the blind, well when a cycle is complete your pineal will literally heal your eyes. This is why old people say masturbation will make you blind (though they don’t really understand how they’re right.) He healed a cripple so he could walk, this will happen in your body too. Now do you understand how some people have such awesome lives and excel at everything?

Jesus says to his disciples “You shall all go on to do greater things.” What this means is that every seed will bring greater results. Every month, the effect will be even more glorious. Your third eye will open, your health will shoot through the roof, your injuries will heal, you will feel happier and stronger than ever. It’s the way life is meant to be lived, and it is FUCKING AWESOME.

This brings us to the concept of Sin. What is sin? Well, sin is simply the things which will sabotage this process and waste the seed. Remember the ten commandments and the capital vices? Having other gods beside God refers both to religion/worship and to getting too involved with other people’s lives/putting others first. Taking his name in vain is a similar concept. The sabbath day means rest, without proper rest you starve the seed. Honor thy father and thy mother means keep your pineal and pituitary healthy, and you will live a long life. Killing, stealing, bearing false witness, coveting your neighbour’s possessions, and committing adultery FUCK YOUR MIND UP. And an unhealthy mind means an unhealthy body in which the seed can’t survive. Also, adultery wastes your chrism.

Lust overstimulates the body, distracts the mind, makes you constantly unsatisfied, and leads to waste of sexual essence. Gluttony drains the body’s energy, dulls the mind and dumps a bunch of shit in your body. Greed makes you constantly unsatisfied, and mean-natured, this disturbs your nervous system. Sloth (laziness and irresponsibility) weakens your body and mind and makes you dependent, this too hurts your nervous system. Wrath overstimulates body and mind and releases toxic hormones and neurotransmitters into your blood, the recovery from which takes a long time. Envy follows the same principle as greed (and to some degree lust and wrath.) Hubris/bigotry is considered the worst of all deadly sins (not pride, there’s nothing wrong with pride) it makes you mean-natured, disconnected from people, and constantly unsatisfied, and makes your mind stagnate. Each one of these things will kill the seed, without exception.

Now do you see the importance of positive thinking, meditation, taking action, eating healthy, and being a good person? Now do you see why I’ve been stressing all these things so much since I joined this site?

The process has been going on since you were 12. How many of these seeds have you wasted? Such a shame, but no sweat. If you’re still alive and not on your deathbed, there is still time. After the first couple of seeds you will regenerate just the same. That’s why some of those tibetan monks seem to age in reverse for a while after beginning this “new way of life.”

Seriously, 1 month is all it takes to get this started and see for yourself. I challenge you, HEthens. Make this your 1 month challenge, and I promise you, I guarantee you, that you will see glorious results.

Now, discuss. Anything about the topic, any questions, any more analogies you’ve found, and so on. And your opinions and thoughts about it all.

July 10, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

Jacob Israel: Means circle or circuit. The glyph known as Jacob depicts a group of men holding eachother’s heel, representing this loop. Israel is the title Jacob received. “The land of Israel” really means “the land where Israel lived.”

Leah and Rachel: The wives of Jacob. Leah means “weak/weary” and Rachel means “ewe.” The zodiac association of Leah is Mars (power/action) and that of Rachel is Venus (love/clarity.) They are the mothers of the tribes of Israel, AKA the 13 bloodlines. These tribes refer to the monthly “seeds.” Why are there two different mothers? Because there are two types of seeds, pineal dominant (strengthening and enlightening) and pituitary dominant (nurturing and healing.) There are more of the former than the latter.

Benjamin: The last child of Jacob and Rachel, the name meaning “son of old age.” Benjamin is the only one of Jacob’s children born in the Holy land (Ararat/Palestine.) This refers to the fact that this final “seed” is only released when the others have succeeded. Benjamin refers to the same “partial” seed as Mary Magdalene. “The ark was in Benjamin” explains about the ark of the covenant.

Ark of the covenant: It actually refers to the same Ark as the one Noah sailed in. When the ark of the covenant travelled through the Jordan, Stones and manna were placed along the river. Manna is “the food of God” and these “stones” are your dorsal vertebrae, together known as the Staff of Aaron. Aaron meaning enlightenment. The ark of the covenant is mentioned many times in the bible, as a tool used by various characters to solve big problems (all of which represents processes in your body.) When Noah builds an ark, bringing with him one couple of each animal (actually meaning each part of your animal, ie your body) it’s referring to the renewal of your body. Your cells are constantly being replaced, this trip of Noah means a massive replacement of many cells in a short time, where most is flushed away. This explains how awesome your body’s regeneration becomes when you’re enlightened.

The number of the beast: The number of the beast is 6, not 666. 666 means a beast on three planes, Adam-man (God-man being the enlightened person who’s “risen above the beast.”) The number of the beast has nothing to do with evil.

Adam and Eve: Adam was explained above, it’s man or mankind, homo sapiens the animal. Eve means “mother of life.” God creating Eve out of a Adam’s rib is a massive mistranslation. The original meaning of woman is not a gender thing, it refers to the womb and the surrounding area, which is located below the ribs (which is also why the dumb christians believe women to be below men.) Another fun fact on this paragraph; in some languages (such as my native tongue, Swedish) the word for womb consists of the words for life and mother. (Livmoder in Swedish.) The actual womb is not the only thing referred to, but an “organ “located near it, which is the same place where “Jesus was born.” Both men and women have this “organ,” just like both genders have the Kardia/Kundalini gland.

Cain and Abel: Cain means “aquisition” and Abel “vapor.” Cain killing Abel refers to the absorbtion. When God brands him with a bolt, that means the brain responds with an electrical current which alters the Cain-Abel.

Abraham: First referred to as Abram (High father) and later Abraham (High father of many children.) Other names used are Abba and Absalom (father of peace). Abraham is your Claustrum. “Before Abraham was, I am” is one of the profound and often misinterpreted God quotes, the actual meaning being that the frontal lobe is in the front of the head.

Barabbas: “The father’s son.” Barabbas the rebel, is a stray part of the “seed” or something along those lines. It is set free, but then crucified together with Jesus.

That’s it for now, I’ll return with more later.

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jjj (32) (@crackedout6pack) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

@mikeyw829, taoism is the shit. and done know bout mantak. mantak for life.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 10 months ago ago

@crackedout6pack Yeah Taoism is good shit. Mantak Chia is very wise too, he’s got quite a bit of material on this microcosmic orbit and elixir of life stuff. Good shit.

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who (557) (@season) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

I opened this post 40 days after it was published, along with being mind-blown. I hear that’s a significant number.

Ummmm, bump?

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@season, Significant number, how? I don’t know much about numerology.

Glad you liked it.

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who (557) (@season) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@manimal, The Esoterosphere seems to be pumping it out at me lately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty#In_religion

It’s a big fasting number. I read somewhere that Pythagoras had to fast for 40 days before he was allowed into the Egyptian mystery school. Not sure on that but it sounds nice.

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zowie (115) (@zowie) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

we’re thinking too much in here about the topic. why don’t we feel instead.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@zowie, THAT, zowie, is a REALLY good question.

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

This is all very interesting… Especially seeing how defensive people get about what they think is “right”

I’m not sure what to make of it all though… It gives me the same feeling that watching the “Spirit Science” videos did. It’s a neat way of putting a lot of different things together in a unified way, but it seems to stretch a bit far in places.

However, the ideas presented are all very good, and I agree with them. Meditation, being a good person, healthy eating and exercise, taking control of your own life, and not masturbating (still not sure what I think about that, I’ve heard lots of good arguments from both sides) .

So what was the challenge? You said you challenged us to a 30 day challenge, but you never said the terms. Or perhaps I just missed them. I interpreted them as “Don’t fall to any of the 7 deadly sins”

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@mercurial, That’s ok if he embraces Luciferianism, there’s no problem in checking out different belief systems and mixing and matching to find what suits you. @manimal, is obviously quite into mixing and matching systems, because of all the connections he made here.

As for Spirit Science, I’m sure I understand it just fine, I’m just not sure it its true/I agree with it. Same with this.

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@mercurial, Yeah, but that’s the magic of picking and choosing what you believe. You can pick the bits the don’t contradict.

Or pick the bits that do, and ignore the contradictions

Or, see the contradicting sides, see what they are both getting at, and see the higher (or lower) message.

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@mercurial, It does, but I don’t know enough about the knowledge of Manimal (as well as these subjects, and how they relate/contradict each other) to be able to call him on it. It also seems to be derailing the original point of the post to go on a side tangent like this.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@xyver, This is nothing like that spirit science stuff. Spirit science is just some “truther” sharing his perspective of history and stuff, it’s nice but that’s all it really is, and the problem is that he presents it as some kind of absolute truth although it’s really just his idea and interpretation of spiritualism. (And there’s no science about it, which makes the name horrible.)

That’s not what this thread is about at all. This is not about views on some kind of theory. This is about something that actually works. Like I often say, I’m a practical man, one of reason. I don’t dabble with “mental masturbation,” I’m all about the stuff that works, the bonafide stuff.

It may seem farfetched at times, depending on your previous perspective/beliefs/knowledge, but does it matter? One doesn’t know what one doesn’t know. And you’ll see several other teachings mention the same concept too. Esoteric taoism, some forms of Tibetan (and Chinese) buddhism, Indian adeptism, Some native American lore, ancient Norse lore, and many others. The “seed of life” principle has been around for ages all over the globe, and there are various ideas of how to achieve it. But they’re all included to some degree in the Christ concept.

The challenge is a simple one (not saying it’s easy though.) Go for 30 days without “killing the seed.”

As for the idea of mixing and matching, yes that’s what I do, and it seems like the only way to get any sort of clear picture of how things really are. Because every teacher taints the message with his own mind, and every message gets distorted over time as people misinterpret it.
Ignoring contradictions is no good, but the other two methods you proposed are really great and those are the ones I do. The third one is overlooked by just about everyone, but that’s where a lot of the really profound stuff is found.

However, combining luciferianism with this stuff requires no assimilation because they’re already fully compatible. I’m not a full-on luciferian though, I don’t belong to any set belief system. But I do resonate the most with luciferianism and taoism.

Of course, me telling you that this stuff works won’t do much, even if I convince you. If you’re interested, just check it out. Experience is the only teacher. Doing is knowing.
You don’t know what you don’t know.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@mercurial Your lack of understanding of the concepts is the problem.

There are two types of Luciferianism, neither of which is in any way anti-christian, satanic, or sinister. “Gnostic” luficerianism is about idealizing the character known as Lucifer in modern religions, the “fallen angel,” the self, the ideal goal is to surpass God. It’s religious stuff.
“Hermetic” luciferianism, authentic luciferianism, is not a religion or anything like that. It’s occult “mystery school” stuff, it’s about knowledge, bringing light (AKA understanding and gaining knowledge.) Lucifer literally means Lightbringer in Latin.
If you want to learn about real luciferianism, read up on the Knights templar, the Rosicrucians, the Masons/Freemasons, Baphomet, Thelema, and Hermetics.

There are no conflicts between luciferianism and this piece of knowledge. How would there? That’s like saying Windows is incompatible with Internet. It’s preposterous and silly, to say the least.

You’re not a biblical scholar, but there’s no need to be one. And if you don’t understand it IS your task to find the info, not anyone else’s. If you want to know stuff, go learn. If not, then don’t. Nobody else has any responsibility for your lack of knowledge.
And I don’t give a damn if you believe in this stuff or not, because it doesn’t affect me, only you. It’s your gain or loss, not mine. GROW UP!

I’m not a PSI, so it isn’t my place to provide such a synthesis (btw it’s synthesis with an I, NOT synthesEs. The latter is plural.)

If you want to learn stuff, you go learn, nobody else gives a shit or has any duty to teach you anything. But seeing how you said you have “all resources necessary” it’s obvious that you don’t want to learn anything.
“He who thinks he knows, cannot learn.” – Ancient wisdom
“He who thinks he knows, has his head so far up his ass he can’t see anything.” – Modern wisdom

I know you just love to derail threads, but I will have none of it here. If you have more antagonistic drama, take it somewhere else. Nobody wants to see this site polluted with your hate.
And if you don’t want to learn, there’s no reason for you to even open one of my threads. You’re just wasting time.

You’re starting to sound a lot like alien51

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@theequinox89, Depends on what condition you’re in, and some other circumstances.
I know from experience that it’s painful, and I know that it can feel many different ways.
That’s why I said it MAY be painful. You said it’s always orgasmic though, that’s the difference. You have one experience and I have another, why do you claim yours is the only valid one?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not bashing you or anything.
And of course the effect of the kundalini is a great feeling, but raising it can be VERY painful. Just like so many other things in life, pain is often the way to bliss. Especially when you force your way.

I’m glad you liked the post. Are you gonna try the challenge?

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@mercurial,

The problem began when you came in with your completely made-up and incorrect definition of luciferianism that has nothing to do with the actual concept.

Qualification? Hah!
I assume that people aren’t so ignorant, I assume that I don’t have to explain what simple terms mean, I assume that people don’t make up lame crazy definitions to concepts they apparently don’t understand at all.

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Vteezy Living (33) (@groig22) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

@manimal, This is amazing. Thank you for sharing your ideas. I’ve always understood how negative attitude/emotions/thoughts are unhealthy for your body. But this makes that actually make sense on different levels.

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carson (47) (@jamescarson) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@manimal,
Your ideas like anyone’s should be subject to at-least a trial of personal application and evaluation before even contemplating commenting on there credibility, however I’m not going to question there credibility. just you :)

– Why do you discredit any idea which contrasts in principle from your own?
I don’t mean this is a negative way, its just quite evident when the validity of an assertion you have made is designated as debatable you often respond by elucidating the insufficiencies in the challenge to your view. Honestly, is this because you believe the views you have are infallible, or is it a consequence of our natural tendency to be protective of the thoughts/beliefs which we utilise to establish self comfortability, or minimise cognitive dissonance?

– What would you define as evidence for your own beliefs? What is it that actually allows you to have faith that your thoughts are valid?
This is just my personal interest, do you validate ideas based on inductive reasoning? positivism? does your intuition lead you? or is it the personal application of ideas?
Should an idea have an authoritative source?

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

@jamescarson, This is off-topic, but I’ll answer any way.

“Why do you discredit any idea which contrasts in principle from your own?”

-How are you so certain that’s what I’m doing? It really isn’t.
If there are insufficiencies or holes in the arguments of another, I point them out. If I notice them, that is.
It has nothing to do with me thinking my view is infallible or wanting to protect my ego, it’s not about me, it’s about whoever I’m addressing.

“What would you define as evidence for your own beliefs?”

Real results, congruence with reality. Throw a rock, it falls and thus you see that gravity is real, but make a wish upon a falling star and nothing happens and you then know that it’s just fantasy.
The key to understanding things is to not believe. Like that classic, ages-old profound esoteric quote says: “Believe in what you can see.”

That’s how I validate “my ideas,” by applying and observing the objective real world results, with no desired outcome and minimal bias. I have no desire to believe a certain way, or to stick to my current beliefs, I only want the truth. I would rather find that I’m wrong than find that I’m right, because that’s progress. That’s the difference between me and most other people. I do not intentionally distort, project or seek… I just observe.
Nor do I have any interest in “being right,” I’m just conveying what I know works and what I know is not only useful to these people but also the most effective route to what they’re seeking.

Purely offering good stuff. If you don’t want it that’s fine, but then you’re just wasting your time and my time by discussing it. And it would be wiser to put that time and energy elsewhere.
I’m not here to discuss ideas, I’m here to solve problems, to produce results, to help people. I am only concerned with that which undeniably works.

Peace bre
//Manimal

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Just thought I’d bump this

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@manimal,

Well… you just won my heart. Good job man, that was some enlightening stuff!

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Nikolaj Katballe (12) (@niko2210) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@manimal
Did it ever strike you that there might be a reason why those extra books are not part of the bible? It’s because it was lies from false prophets. This interpretation of the scriptures is really just too far out, dude. You are looking at a few small things in the bible and conclude some wierd theory about biology… What about all the other small insignificant details? Should we over-analyze them as well? If anyone would look at the whole bible they could easily tell that this has nothing to do with it.
I’m not saying that your stuff about seeds and fluids is wrong, but it just doesn’t have anything to do with the bible.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@niko2210, Sorry to disappoint you dude, but that’s not true at all.

There really was no prophet, just a bunch of teachers making up stories to explain things.
It’s not just about tiny parts, it’s actually about the whole damn thing, but like I said it would take a whole damn book to explain things properly.

There are a few such books, I’ve read some of them, very good stuff that explains it well. There’s also the rejected books, that were originally in the holy book, I haven’t read through the whole thing because it’s a very very long read, but what I’ve read is very eye-opening.

You need to look beyond the words.

What I did here is I simply offer a brief explanation to act as a way point, so people can do more research and experience.

Religions don’t come from nowhere. They come from ages of misinterpretations of the old teachings that are actually very wise. Religion though, is just a bunch of bullshit.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

encounter any negativity in your day = fix that shit ?? profit. nothing matters but feeling good by living your life in loving intent.

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Anonymous (216) (@) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Reminds me of the Creation of Adam in the Sistine Chapel

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