Woah…! What do you think of this concept of reality?

 Soul Finder (@Inthebalance)6 years, 6 months ago

We become what we love, and we are drawn to those who have or seek knowledge of that passion.

In that respect, we are also the kinds of facts and therories which exist; as made up conceptually by our own thoughts; so we are the embodiments of that understanding.

In this sense, our spirit exists as pure concept itself; so as concepts and ideas come to our minds, as are we visited by spirits which embody that passion.

March 10, 2015 at 11:37 pm
LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

To me… concepts belong to Maya. They belong to personal reality… which is also Maya.

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Anonymous (2) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

I feel that the spirit exists independent of the form it takes. We embody certain pieces of reality as it resonates with our individual life… So whatever we end up loving and expressing does become the essence of our presence in the world but doesn’t define our eternal identity as a whole.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

As above so below. I’m not sure how spirit can be independent other than behind the veil to us. If you mean independent but not separate, then I see what you mean.

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Anonymous (2) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

I don’t mean separate…singular enough for interdependence maybe.

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Soul Finder (60) (@Inthebalance) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Ah I see what you mean,facinating. What do you supose fabricates our eternal identity?

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Are you saying that different souls can and do inhabit our bodies all at once? Not saying I would agree or disagree, just want to clarify what it is you are hinting at ;)

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

The word ‘souls’ can’t really replace the word ‘spirit’, there is a BIG difference. It’s strange to me that you would replace those two words.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Please explain

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Spirit is a universal energy and non personal whereas a soul is an individual aspect of the deeper or higher self. In older times the word spirit was used to define a ghost or an entity etc. and has created much confusion because of that. The sense of the word in those times may have fit, however the true definition was still wrong.

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Soul Finder (60) (@Inthebalance) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

I love your perspective on the universal energy of spirit :) yes, I mean to draw a connection from universal spirit to souls, as it is a non-personal thing which experiences itself through person expiriences. Trying to connect the lines between universal spirit and how we connected to it.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

I was replying to Josh’s reply to anjelica’s post. Again this new format is hard to follow if you ask me : )

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Soul Finder (60) (@Inthebalance) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Perhaps, why not?

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Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

This reminds me of part of a book I read recently that states that reality is mental, and everything happening in the world is happening as thoughts in the mind of THE ALL.
Since matter cannot be created or destroyed, but can only change shape, this is comparable to thoughts that we have, where vivid images and sensations can arise, yet nothing material is actually being created.

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Soul Finder (60) (@Inthebalance) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Oh I love this concept! And yes, isn’t it facinating about how matter cannot be destroyed? Oh! But our thoughts do change shape, it’s like our thoughts move from our area of thought into reality as we create it. Artwork for example! Just a thought :)

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JustinDanger (41) (@JustinDanger) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Yeah I like this

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Anonymous (328) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Properties are thoughts and ideas. Or are properties the “spirit” of things? It is said that matter reacts to our observation of it. Why should it be isolated to sight? If sight has so much influence towards particles, how about the other senses? Entanglement breaks the speed of light.

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Soul Finder (60) (@Inthebalance) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Fabulous and logical response :) I love it. Absolutely, and “more studies” are being done testing how the structure of water relates to thought & feeling aswell, it’s all facinating, and makes one consider, it would make sense if this reality were a 3D dream-like illusion of thought which we can alter by thought. Same like mirroring protons which minic eachother in sink at the same time no matter how distant.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Very much. It’s intoxicating and lonely in the best way possible.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

This is apples and oranges again. Science is still too infantile to fathom true spirit. I will say that it is slowly getting closer though. Also until a higher level is reached of the sciences and the lower mind in the distant future…logic and reason must be cast out in order to go beyond the veils of our existence concerning ‘spirit’.

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JustinDanger (41) (@JustinDanger) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Really it’s getting closer? I would say it’s much farther than it was in the early 1900’s.

But forget true spirit, even yogic science doesn’t understand true spirit, I’d like to see western science just accept the fact that there exists something called “Mind”

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Science IS getting closer, but it is all unpublished because it debunks all the past BS they have fed to us.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Modern science already knows of the God particle and their tails are between their legs already. They are a snake eating it’s own tail.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

That’s because you see science in the terms of the mainstream narrative. Apples and oranges? You’re contradicting yourself if you think reality can be explained in categories. You said it yourself: “logic and reason must be cast out.” Though you still use it to form a biased view towards science, or rather you’ve eaten up the propaganda of spiritual elitism.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

You contradict my contradiction. I wasn’t speaking in objective terms and I seldom ever will. I am not being biased to say that science is objective because if it wasn’t then it would be mysticism and no longer science. Since you can see what I see through my own eyes, then perhaps my words blur my vision.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

If you are telling me that science has discovered the actuality of spirit in it’s true form or formlessness then I look forward to reading the papers on this. Post a link and I will study these findings in a non biased way for sure.
The term “spiritual elitism” is more a biased term than me comparing two fruits in which I like.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

“So if you get into the modern bickering about science this spirituality that, then you are being a disinformation tool.”

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

“disinformation tool”…perhaps, since this is the internet after all. Science is still on one side of the coin and always will be. When it sees both sides of it then it will no longer be science in the normal term of the word.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

I get your Ouroboros analogy. There is no divide, in simple terms. That’s why I started my post about wave and particle duality, catch it? The whole hooplah that finally there is ongoing “evidence” in our modern language is enough to root for. It’s just a different format of something very old. So if you get into the modern bickering about science this spirituality that, then you are being a disinformation tool.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Wave and particle duality is far from what I am asking for since it is still only one side of the coin. I can only see that your science has been offended in some way. This is why we are on this forum after all…to offend each other.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

I can’t spoonfeed you. Yeah I know right? Lawyer up.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

No need, I eat apples and oranges with my hands.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

True Yoga knows spirit, but for me yogic science is just as dumb as the rest of it all. All sciences still look outside.

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Anonymous (0) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Like you right? :D no offence, but do you ever look inside yourself?

I’m curious!
Don’t take this the wrong way, it’s just that you talk so much about within, and at the same time about striving to get somewhere, and studying, becoming… I wonder, that you have the idea, that you have to know a great deal more, before you are gonne look within?

Or do you like the study about what within means?

Don’t take this the wrong way dude! :D

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

No worries bro : ) I speak a lot of looking within because that is where I find actuality verses reality. If you can find the same looking elsewhere then I am all for it. For myself this just does not work. What we learn from various sources are like keys that magickly opens the knowledge that we all have within ourselves. These things are not given to us and we must work hard for it and pass countless tests from many secret places. We all make the mistake of thinking ourselves into a corner and when we can think no more because of it, then we either give up on it all or discover a whole new knowledge of things. A new perception creeps up on us over years without us even knowing what has happened. I can only say here what works for me because I wasn’t born with knowledge of such matters and few if any are.

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Anonymous (0) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Thanks for your reply, I must say I don’t agree with you on most things you express, but I totally don’t seem to find that a problem :D
I can honestly say that I appreciate you as a person, I really do! Although we think very differently.
I guess I’m just so interested in all the angles our society sees it’s existence, that I can’t be other than exited to see opinions different than mine. (that does not mean I don’t debate of course :P)

So keep up the good work ;)

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

We are all as different as we are the same after all. For people to agree with all I say would not sit right with me anyway’s, so that pleases me in many ways. If I can cause one to ponder their self in one way or another than I’m cool with it. Debates tend to bring out things that otherwise would be left in the dark. It is only my intention to cause some to ponder things, but not necessarily agree with anything. : )

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

I’m not saying that science is unintelligent, it is far more intelligent than myself by far, the above post was meant to state that they study one side of the coin and I see that the word dumb was the wrong choice. No offence was intended. I love science and I love spirit and I love apples and I love oranges.

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JustinDanger (41) (@JustinDanger) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

This isn’t true, you are more intelligent than science.

Every single individual person is more intelligent than science.

Proof of claim:
Every single major ground-breaking scientific thought came from an individual mind and not a scientific community.

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