You are smothering yourself…

 Ray Butler (@trek79)7 years, 4 months ago

You do things because you can, not because you want to or need to, when you do things out of want and need you will inevitably get things wrong, maybe not initially but over the broader picture.

You have a natural sense of justice that serves as the point of reference that you can judge what you can do by, knowledge is intended to serve that sense not over-ride it, and it may get you killed or someone you care about, but nothing will ever be done right until you do.

People think they are putting themselves first, but really they are smothering themselves for the sake of their wants and needs, for the sake of their fears and desires. It isn’t complicated, people just make it so for themselves.

February 6, 2014 at 3:15 am
globalcitizen21 (44) (@globalcitizen21) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

nice one,
Solution: face our fears…..every single one.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Facing fears was not what I had in mind, more not let your fears make decisions for you, don’t give them that power, but I suppose it could be interpreted as you said; to not be controlled by your fears you would have to be willing to let them hit you as hard as they can if necessary, but the key word being if it is necessary, you avoid pains if you can, I’m not saying jump off a cliff because you are afraid to.

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globalcitizen21 (44) (@globalcitizen21) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

agreed…..
anyhow you should watch videos on this channel for daily motivation…
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMiro0r
they are pretty famous too.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I do things because I can’t.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I think people have a natural sense of justice, and when they do things contrary to that sense it is because fear or desire makes the decision for them. So if you make a decision for that sense and it flies in the face of fear and desire, then yes you do things because you can’t.

But I also hold that knowledge is also a danger like fear and desire; we can be tempted to allow it to over-ride that sense rather than serve it all the same.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

So ultimately the sense of justice decides what you can and can’t do, because it is the real you and to defy it is basically being a slave to something else rather than true to it.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

That’s not what I do at all.

I do what I can’t because exceeding limits is what I’m all about. Repeating the same stuff over and over is pointless, boring and stupid. Doing what I already can do brings me nothing of value, doing what I can’t do brings me all I could ever ask for.

It is not an escape from anything, it is not a pursuit of anything in particular. Fear plays no part in it, it’s all about the love.

There is no real you, and that “sense of justice” is just social conditioning, its purpose is to make you a good pet for your crooked masters.

Knowledge is the root of power, power is the root of freedom, freedom is the root of all true virtue.
I swear no allegiance to anything, do not bend for anyone, freedom is my all.

I do what I can’t, because only a slave lives through the same day more than once.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I don’t think a sense of justice is social conditioning, I think it is altered by social conditioning but there is a naturally evolved sense. People know what they like and know what they don’t like, a child will find a puppy cute and fascinating, that is not conditioning that is nature, then stomp on the puppy’s head and the child will cry, that is nature not social conditioning.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Conditioning is when you stomp so many puppies heads in front of that child they get used to it and no longer cry, maybe even start to do it themselves.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Some children will act like you claim, some will find the puppy annoying or scary and hurt it. Some won’t pay attention to the puppy at all.
This is partially due to their conditioning, partially due to their own thoughts, and so on.

Letting a concept limit what one can do means being a slave to it. To defy it does not mean being a slave to something else, it just means you’re not a slave to that particular concept.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

“Letting a concept limit what one can do means being a slave to it. To defy it does not mean being a slave to something else, it just means you’re not a slave to that particular concept.”

Well said. I believe we have senses beyond the categorical 5, and we have an inherent nature, it is up to people if they believe the same so I have no place determining another persons process for them, but I believe in trusting our own senses and being true to that nature.

I don’t think those things are conceptually based so I agree that concepts can unnecessarily limit us when we allow them to. But I also believe that observing that sense and nature is not slavery, slavery is placing anything else before it. I do acknowledge this philosophy is rather general and vague, but I think it has to be because as I said, each person decides that for themselves, and to specify a certain path in attaining it is completely contrary to the very point.

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